[00:14:41] <perryprog>	 tbh rewrite in php 5 when
[20:53:41] <tgr_>	 <Nemo_bis> "tgr: I'm glad you tried. :) Mayb..." <- Not me but it has been raised internally, yes. I guess part of the problem is that the "value" is very hard to determine: you don't get any direct benefit out of being a donor, but of course the health and quality of PHP has a huge effect on Wikimedia projects.
[20:56:29] <tgr_>	 The same cannot be said of Matrix - it would be strange to argue for its importance while we aren't using it in the many places where we could. I think we have way more Discord and Telegram users than Matrix users (even though Telegram is worse in pretty much every aspect as far as I can see). So you'd have to convince the users first.