[09:22:30] <giraffe>	 i'm getting an error trying access wikimedia sites
[09:24:51] <TheresNoTime>	 giraffe: now known and being looked at, major* outage currently afaics
[09:25:26] <giraffe>	 ok thanks
[09:25:37] <giraffe>	 (forwarded on to folks on discord)
[09:30:52] <Nemo_bis>	 giraffe: thanks, let them know they can use IRC as well :D 
[09:33:43] <Base>	 Nemo_bis: it gets more and more difficult to explain to people what IRC is nowadays :(
[09:34:02] <giraffe>	 ^ that
[09:34:06] <bawolff>	 Its not like anyone knew what irc was 10 years ago either, there was just less other choices
[09:34:59] <Nemo_bis>	 you don't need to explain it, the same way banks don't bother to explain what's a chatbot before throwing one into your face
[09:35:03] <Base>	 yeah, but at least having alternative clients for ICQ/Google talk-Jabber/Facebook etc was a thing, so the idea of some messenger not being an exact app was not strange
[09:35:19] <KDDLB>	 seems to be back?
[09:35:34] <Nemo_bis>	 (but I should probably avoid derailing this channel with metacommentary during an outage, sorry)
[09:35:42] <giraffe>	 yep it's back for me
[09:36:03] <bawolff>	 Nemo_bis: well its not like anything happens in this channel related to the outage, its all in -operation or _security
[09:36:43] <KDDLB>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325587#8636236 
[09:37:03] <KDDLB>	 an upgrade didn't go as planned methinks
[09:37:10] <bawolff>	 I actually think that is unrelated
[09:37:14] <KDDLB>	 oh huh
[09:39:47] <bawolff>	 KDDLB: although im just speculating. undoubtedly there will eventually be a full incident report later
[11:39:24] <Yahya>	 Hello, bnwiki is now read-only. Some users can edit and some can't. Can anyone tell me if any maintenance work is going on! Never seen a wiki is read-only for so long.
[11:42:23] <Bsadowski1>	 They are working on something in -operations
[11:43:35] <Yahya>	 The community should be notified before doing so. 😑
[11:45:21] <taavi>	 that maintenance seems to be unrelated
[11:45:38] <taavi>	 still seeing those errors?
[11:46:43] <Yahya>	 taavi: Yes
[11:47:05] <Yahya>	 A user reported on my talk page a while back that this has been happening for hours.
[11:47:21] <taavi>	 how can they report it on the talk page if the wiki is read-only?
[11:52:22] <Yahya>	 Talk page is still editable with new reply tool.
[11:53:10] <Yahya>	 One user told me on messenger that he can edit with api.
[12:02:08] <jynus>	 hi, we got reports of read only errors on editing, but we belive that issue to be fixed, can someone confirm?
[12:02:14] <bawolff>	 Yahya: --^
[12:02:30] <jynus>	 as in, someone that had the issue but no longer has it, bawolff?
[12:02:48] <bawolff>	 jynus: Yahya was the person reporting the issue earlier
[12:02:54] <jynus>	 thanks
[12:03:09] <jynus>	 if you can try saving now, it should work, but we want to be sure
[12:03:11] <bawolff>	 They have not commented since your fix, so i don't know if it is fixed for them or not
[12:03:17] <Yahya>	 jynus wiki is still read-only
[12:03:48] <jynus>	 can you save your edit (e.g. copy the text) and reload the page?
[12:05:08] <Yahya>	 I can edit with desktop but mobile site is read-only
[12:05:13] <jynus>	 weird
[12:06:40] <Yahya>	 Most of our active contributors edit with mobile device.
[12:07:28] <jynus>	 yeah, it is important that it works
[12:10:58] <comets>	 commons still locked i see..
[12:22:07] <jynus>	 comets, Yahya can you try now?
[12:22:32] <comets>	 yep works
[12:22:37] <jynus>	 great!
[12:22:39] <jynus>	 thanks
[12:23:02] <claime>	 Yahya: does it work now?
[12:24:22] <Yahya>	 No, edit button on mobile site is still locked.
[12:24:33] <MdsShakil>	 claime: probably fixed 
[12:24:38] <Yahya>	 jynus: claime 
[12:25:08] <jynus>	 can you reload the page, sometimes te cache takes a bit to take effect?
[12:25:11] <claime>	 Yahya: probably cache
[12:25:19] <Yahya>	 MdsShakil: তুমি মোবাইল দিয়ে এডিট করতে পারছো?
[12:25:29] <MdsShakil>	 Yah, https://w.wiki/6N2a
[12:26:14] <Yahya>	 Fixed, thanks
[12:26:40] <jynus>	 Yahya: great news!
[12:26:50] <jynus>	 sorry for disrruption caused
[16:58:48] <mutante>	 win 29
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