[10:53:14] 10 min ago i got an email about a modification by TheChunky to a new page on my watchlist, but there's no modification in the page history. this is the mail: https://www.pastebin.cz/en/p/SH38GkD this is the page history: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kara_no_kyoukai&action=history&useskin=vector [10:53:40] maybe just a bug, but it's also slightly suspicious so that's why i'm giving a heads up [10:54:11] it's about the page being patrolled: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Kara+no+kyoukai [10:54:34] log events aren't directly visible in the page history (there's a link to the logs however), but are shown in the watchlist [10:59:12] as far as I’ve been able to tell, it’s a log event whenever there isn’t a diff link in the email [10:59:23] (I occasionally get such emails when someone sends a MassMessage to a distribution list I watch) [11:04:09] hi Lucas_WMDE [11:04:18] are you working at wmf? [11:04:30] or volunteer at .de department [11:10:12] taavi, Lucas_WMDE, thanks. there's already a ticket to improve the mails: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332980 [11:21:50] i would send in a patch, but the friction to even clone the repo is *insane*: i have a phabricator account, i found the link to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/, cloning there needs authentication, i read that signing in to Gerrit is done with the same username/password as for Phabricator, but i don't have a username/password there (i log in using MediaWiki SSO) [11:26:23] i've skimmed a dozen of documentation pages and finally found the anonymous repo URL https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/core [11:43:05] Gry: what would be your followup question? [12:15:56] midgard: Gerrit login is with a developer account (most commonly a wikitech wiki login) compared to a mediawiki wiki login [12:16:14] but Phabricator can use both, a developer or mediawiki wiki account [12:23:51] midgard: you can also use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit_patch_uploader for which you don't have to create a new developer account [13:03:17] midgard: can you link to that documentation which said it’s the same username/password as phab? we should probably update that with what p858snake said [13:08:53] apparently i misunderstood https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial?useskin=vector#Add_SSH_Public_key_to_your_Gerrit_account; at the time i didn't know there was a separate Developer account [13:20:47] I see, maybe this helps? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Developer_account&diff=prev&oldid=6171018 [13:54:17] taavi: Hej hej, does https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/3085/manage/ still need to be active? If not, could you Deactivate Repository? (I cannot access the repo so I don't know what's in there. Just querying here what's canonically hosted in Diffusion, because T191182 [13:54:18] T191182: Migrate active repositories in Phabricator Differential to GitLab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191182 [13:55:58] Lucas_WMDE, yes, that would have put me on track! thanks [14:16:01] andre: deactivated and made the permissions a bit wider. thanks. [16:00:26] * dbb thinks to check on the status of a super-old Labs deveoper account [18:57:02] andre: mistab? what followup question? [19:05:12] Gry: You asked if someone is with WMF or WMDE [19:05:28] no mistab :) [19:48:46] andre: no follow up question. I would like to know the organization better. [19:49:05] andre: are they volunteer or employee? [19:49:08] ah :) I guess the suffix of the username explains [19:49:44] No, not really. I don't know whether wmde is a part of wmf by volunteering or by having employed staff. [19:50:06] That's the question. [19:51:33] WMDE is a separate legal entity. WMDE has employed staff. [20:01:48] WMDE is even more complicated [20:03:19] there is a non-profit limited liability corporation (gGmbH) collecting donations, and a non-profit association (eV) receiving about half of them [20:03:34] the other half iirc goes to WMF [20:03:58] the non-profit association (eV) can't just send half of their donation money somewhere else, so the gGmbH does that task [20:04:31] people can become members of the eV, and vote in its assemblies [20:05:16] I *think* the eV is WMDE [20:07:45] yeah, as far as I understand the gGmbH is only for donation stuff https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/F%C3%B6rdergesellschaft