[00:53:43] <Ferien>	 I personally use irc.wikimedia as a clearer version of RecentChanges and there don't seem to be many users left now (particularly with the disconnections). is there a way that's possible on irc without using irc.wikimedia?
[00:54:47] <AntiComposite>	 the new system completely isolates you from everyone else using it, so you'll only see yourself using it
[07:28:40] <Ferien>	 ohhhh I see
[12:10:56] <A_smart_kitten>	 wondering if anyone has any info on something i've noticed -- from 09:19 (UTC) 7 November onwards, mediawiki has been logging page moves at enwiki in the page creation log *as well* as the move log. ctrl+f-ing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.44/wmf.2/Changelog, I can't immediately find anything that looks like this change would have been intentional. i'm wondering if anyone has any idea about what might have caused thi
[12:13:22] <A_smart_kitten>	 (by 'logging page moves in the page creation log', i mean adding a page creation log event for the redirect left behind after the move with the summary "[username] moved page [old name] to [new name]: [reason]")
[12:17:37] <A_smart_kitten>	 found a phab ticket for it anyway, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379380
[17:43:44] <NovakWatchmen>	 Hello, is there a way to stop mass undo edits by new users? That doesn't involve abuse filters with specific edit summaries (as those can be easily changed)?
[18:22:00] <NovakWatchmen>	 Oh, is it possible to create an abuse filter which will register and throttle/disallow any edit, or rather no specific edit, made by non-autoconfirmed users with already existing tags, such as "mw-undo" and "mw-manual-revert"?