[01:47:23] Hi [01:47:23] Where can I get help on EasyTimeline [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EasyTimeline]? [01:47:24] First time using it and I'm getting an error when generating a local timeline. [18:15:28] Hi [18:15:29] I've been trying to build a timeline with Easy Timeline [https://w.wiki/CcRG] but I get an error on the Perl script and I don't know Perl. [18:15:29] Any pointers where I can get support on this? [18:15:30] Thank you. [18:20:47] ventolinmx: technically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:EasyTimeline_syntax and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EasyTimeline where the author and repo is listed in the infobox. but since previous questions there didnt get answers and I am pretty sure the author is retired.. I would try this mailing list as a last resort: [18:20:52] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/?language=en [18:21:52] ventolinmx: actually.. since you say you get an error, it would make sense to create a bug report. that would be here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/140/ [18:22:15] there is a "component" for this extension in the bug tracker, Phabricator [18:22:27] see that workboard there for other open tickets [18:23:10] Thank you mutante. I'll look into those links but the error is on the developer program, not the content file. I'm using the sample given and It doesn't outputs anything but an error on the Perl script. [18:23:12] noteworthy is also that one of the open tickets is to remove that extension entirely [18:23:23] so I dont think it has a bright future [18:23:41] maybe you can ask instead what the alternative is [18:23:44] Oh great, I'll create a bug report if it is not reported there. [18:24:14] or you can comment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137291 to ask what to use instead [18:24:24] or all of that :) [18:25:06] I read somewhere that supposedly the new Chart extension will make timelines but on the Chart extension page there is no indication of a timeline feature. [18:25:47] try to search for the page of the Chart extension on mediawiki.org [18:26:09] then say what you just told me on the Talk page there [18:26:29] hopefully that has more activity [18:27:44] Let's hope developers of Chart are also thinking of a timeline feature. [18:27:44] I guess along maps and charts, a timeline is also a very important resource for Wikipedia. [18:29:12] Thank you very much mutante :) [18:33:43] ventolinmx: I think the most promising approach is to do all the things above. like ask on the mailing list, create a bug AND use the talk page(s) if that doesn't seem too much [18:34:39] Yes, I'll go one by one. I think it is worth it not only for me. [18:35:42] great:) [18:36:19] :) [19:37:46] ventolinmx: in a wiki? running locally the perl script? [19:38:37] Platonides Yes, running it locally. [19:40:45] did you look at the sourceforge documentation? [19:40:50] I have used it in the past [19:41:17] there are some differences vs the syntax in the wiki, but it certainly worked [19:41:22] I've read erverything on http://infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/EasyTimeline/Introduction.htm [19:41:50] I'll look i [19:41:58] *nto Sourceforge [19:42:49] I think what it is on Sourceforge is Ploticus, one of it dependencies [19:43:01] I've tested Ploticus separately and it works. [19:46:11] yes, I think I was mixing it up [19:46:22] I ended up using ploticus directly [19:47:32] Did you make timelines with Ploticus? [19:47:43] yes [19:48:14] EasyTimeline gets the input, and produces a ploticus file [19:48:18] which is rendered with it [19:48:34] it may be that it doesn't work directly for your usecase, though [19:49:01] it depends what "timeline" you want [19:49:03] Cool. I'll try it as an option. Do you know if timelines made in Ploticus are used somewhere in Wikipedia? Why EasyTimeline was used instead of Ploticus directly? [19:49:37] look at https://ploticus.sourceforge.net/gallery/index.html [19:49:47] and see if any of those matches what you want [19:49:59] I basically want to do my own timelines that are compatible also with Wikipedia so when they are ready I can upload them to Wikipedia depending on the respective existing articles. [19:50:25] hmm, then you probably want to work with easytimeline [19:53:15] Yes, that's what I thought. I was thinking that what I make probably is useful for someone else and Wikpedia is perfect for sharing that. [19:53:15] Before I was using https://visjs.org/ for myself but I think you can't embed this in Wikpedia. [19:53:53] what was the error you were getting? [19:54:12] I'm seeing some errors related to Can't use 'defined(@array)' [19:57:29] don't use the file from infodisiac.com [19:57:47] use the one on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ETLN/browse/master/scripts/ [20:01:26] Exactly that: "Can't use 'defined(@array)' (Maybe you should just omit the defined()?) at EasyTimeline_backup.pl line 190." [20:01:51] use the version from the repository, which is newer [20:01:59] and has that resolved [20:02:02] Oh cool, I see that the phabricator one is more recent [20:02:08] Nice!