[10:01:32] <klausman>	 So I have been infomred that btrfs is blacklisted in prod. Is tere a rationale/explanation page or something for that?
[10:04:00] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Abdelazim Said; /* Request to use MATLAB software */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29747608&oldid=29730396&rcid=37689978
[11:02:51] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Gryllida; /* Request to use MATLAB software */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29747965&oldid=29747608&rcid=37690456
[11:12:09] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ~2025-38431-93; /* Request to use MATLAB software */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748011&oldid=29747965&rcid=37690509
[11:43:45] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; AKlapper (WMF); /* Request to use MATLAB software */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748218&oldid=29748011&rcid=37690792
[12:02:46] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ~2025-38431-93; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748251&oldid=29748218&rcid=37690858
[12:19:27] <Lucas_WMDE>	 klausman: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1105707 I guess (defense in depth because unused)
[12:20:05] <klausman>	 Mh. :-/ I guess if I want deduplication/reflinking, it'll have to be XFS
[12:22:24] <taavi>	 klausman: Lucas_WMDE: that looks like it was disabled because nothing was using it at that moment, not because it for some reason is fully unusable for us
[12:22:49] <taavi>	 (similar to how squashfs is disabled by default but enabled on some boxes on a case-by-case basis)
[12:24:40] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Jianhui67; Reverted change by [[Special:Contributions/~2025-38431-93|~2025-38431-93]] ([[User talk:~2025-38431-93|talk]]) to last version by AKlapper (WMF); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748356&oldid=29748251&rcid=37691028
[12:25:12] <klausman>	 I mean, I am mostly after the feature (COW/reflinking), not the specific fstype. It's just that I have a lot of experience with btrfs (and haven't lost a single byte to it in >10 years)
[12:27:07] <klausman>	 Since XFS seems to be on the okay-to-use list, might as well use that
[12:35:36] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Gryllida; /* Request to use MATLAB software */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748485&oldid=29748356&rcid=37691210
[13:32:04] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ~2025-38431-93; /* Request to use MATLAB software */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29748837&oldid=29748485&rcid=37691698
[15:06:52] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ValJor; /* How to determine which type of device a person is using? */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29749091&oldid=29748837&rcid=37692201
[15:12:42] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; AKlapper (WMF); /* How to determine which type of device a person is using? */ Reply; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29749101&oldid=29749091&rcid=37692211
[15:32:01] <brennen>	 this year's iteration of the developer satisfaction survey is live: https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643
[15:34:00] <taavi>	 brennen: can we make this box https://prod-misc-upload.public.object.majava.org/taavi/dzLM4ekB5D16T.png any wider?
[15:35:07] <brennen>	 hmm.  maybe?  i'll find out.
[15:36:57] <Reedy>	 "Taavi has been a MediaWiki Developer for over 2000 years"
[15:37:03] <taavi>	 same thing for "In what year did you start using Toolforge?"
[15:38:58] <taavi>	 aaah, why is the Toolforge question worded like that but then the next page asks for number of years you've been using Cloud VPS
[15:44:11] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ValJor; /* How to determine which type of device a person is using? */ (super fast!); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=29749193&oldid=29749101&rcid=37692351
[15:55:44] <taavi>	 another problem: the survey assumes I have only contributed to APIs that I actually use
[15:58:20] <thcipriani>	 taavi: you're on the survey testing team next time ;) We fixed the "number of years" thing so they all ask for "what year" we caught the toolforge one being different than the landing page yesterday, but missed the cloud one. We noted the time we made the change so survey results make sense.
[15:59:06] <thcipriani>	 thank you for catching that <3
[16:03:02] <brennen>	 unsure about width on that year input.  apparently it's fine in chrome but is slightly narrow for that input on my firefox (and wider than the one in your screenshot).
[16:07:24] <taavi>	 the 'You ranked "Something else" for how you decide what projects or tasks to work on. Please describe that here:' entry appears even if you don't select 'Something else'
[16:07:33] <taavi>	 thcipriani: would you prefer these in a more structured format or is here fine?
[16:08:32] <brennen>	 (year input width seems fixed)
[16:08:58] <thcipriani>	 taavi: this works. I'm relaying these to folks.
[16:29:19] <thcipriani>	 fixed the "You ranked 'Something else' for how do you decide what projects or tasks to work on. Fixing the API is subtler and requires taking down the survey (since it's more than just question logic), we added that to our "next year" doc.