[12:24:19] <LD22>	 On French Wikipedia, the prefix “Abstract:” redirects to https://abstract.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1. There is an issue with the page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=16639264
[12:24:20] <LD22>	  (Discussion:Abstract : L'art du design): it cannot be moved to 'Discussion:Abstract - L'art du design'; the move seems to be blocked because “Abstract:” is interpreted as a special prefix;
[12:24:20] <LD22>	 however, the corresponding target page is not actually accessible or usable in practice. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Abstract_:_L%27art_du_design
[12:24:21] <LD22>	 So how can this title conflict be resolved? is there a way to bypass this restriction? or does this require intervention, then from who?
[12:29:57] <LD>	 AntiComposite any idea?
[12:42:33] <AntiComposite>	 I think that requires sysadmin intervention to move the page
[12:43:31] <LD>	 alright thanks
[12:43:57] <LD>	 alright thanks :)
[12:46:52] <A_smart_kitten>	 LD: it might be worth leaving a comment in T420654; judging by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420654#11746680 it looks like the mainspace page was fixed but not the talk page
[12:46:53] <stashbot>	 T420654: Set up an interwiki prefix for Abstract Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420654
[12:52:57] <taavi>	 the page move api takes page IDs so it should technically be moveable without shell access
[12:55:09] <LD>	 Hm I'll give a try with API then :3
[13:12:45] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Johannnes89; Restored revision 30302855 by [[Special:Contributions/Pppery|Pppery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|talk]]): - off-topic ([[:metawiki:TwinkleGlobal|TwinkleGlobal]]); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=30329369&oldid=30323304&rcid=38931932
[13:41:06] <LD>	 taavi it seems it doesn't work, as the shell access doesn't :')
[13:44:02] <A_smart_kitten>	 LD: out of interest, do you get a specific error?
[13:46:17] <taavi>	 [bd1da97c-827c-494a-b6e2-05cfafbedb18] Caught exception of type MediaWiki\\Page\\PageAssertionException
[13:46:23] <taavi>	 MediaWiki\Page\PageAssertionException: The given PageIdentity Discussion:Abstract : L'art du design does not represent a proper page
[13:46:29] <taavi>	 this has broken the last time I did that
[13:46:31] * taavi files task
[13:48:49] <taavi>	 T421722
[13:48:49] <stashbot>	 T421722: Moving a page shadowed by new interwiki definition fails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421722
[14:28:56] <LD>	 That said, shouldn’t Special:MovePage be allowed to ignore some restrictions, like Special:Interwiki follows? :O I mean, it should be able to move from something that might be incorrect. Looks like a subtask/feature of the bug.
[19:58:44] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ~2026-19810-60; /* Jason lowe */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=30331038&oldid=30329369&rcid=38935439
[19:58:53] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Quinlan83; Reverted change by [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19810-60|~2026-19810-60]] ([[User talk:~2026-19810-60|talk]]) to last version by Johannnes89; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=30331039&oldid=30331038&rcid=38935441
[20:04:40] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ~2026-19810-60; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=30331044&oldid=30331039&rcid=38935451
[20:04:47] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Quinlan83; Reverted change by [[Special:Contributions/~2026-19810-60|~2026-19810-60]] ([[User talk:~2026-19810-60|talk]]) to last version by Quinlan83; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=30331046&oldid=30331044&rcid=38935455