[10:58:41] <gifti>	 i'm getting a lot of database errors across all wikis: “A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.”
[11:02:04] <gifti>	 i suspect it's just me and maybe something in my user scripts but i can't even view or edit them
[11:04:43] <andre>	 what are steps to reproduce? is this about calling some tools, or api, or about simple page views in a browser?
[11:05:25] <gifti>	 it's just about every page view in the browser
[11:07:45] <gifti>	 it seems it's just wikipedias
[11:08:33] <Raine>	 I saw something fishy in the logs the other day, there was a bad query exception
[11:09:10] <gifti>	 i have a workaround: load the page, refresh the browser cache, then it works
[11:09:32] <gifti>	 still not great (i have to do it for every page) but not totally broken anymore
[11:12:38] <gifti>	 it's not just wikipedias, it /is/ all wikis, i was wrong
[11:17:51] <RhinosF1>	 Do you get a string of letters and numbers at the start of the error, if so, that will help people debug
[11:19:40] <gifti>	 sadly no
[11:22:01] <gifti>	 i have this in the page source: [430991b7-5802-4bff-97ab-e878b685b007] 2026-06-25 11:21:10: Fataler Ausnahmefehler des Typs „Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError“
[11:25:27] <gifti>	 or one in english: [49bcfd6f-8b77-4614-8b2a-2b51b2608c1e] 2026-06-25 11:24:31: Fatal exception of type &quot;Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError&quot;
[11:27:46] <RhinosF1>	 That would be it
[13:16:03] <Raine>	 can you file a phab ticket with those errors? if you want, I can help it along the way to the right people once it's filed
[13:20:09] <andre>	 gifti: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/46/ for that (production error) ^
[13:21:03] <gifti>	 is one of them enough? or are more better?
[13:21:21] <andre>	 let's start with one :)
[13:22:03] <gifti>	 i even get an error logging into phabricator :D
[13:23:49] <gifti>	 luckily i have a developer account
[13:24:46] <gifti>	 otherwise i couldn't even log into phabricator, that's completely broken via unified login
[13:26:10] <gifti>	 this form sure is confusing …
[13:40:40] <gifti>	 Raine: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T430161
[13:45:17] <Raine>	 thank you gifti!
[13:49:57] <Raine>	 oh fun, yeah, that's tasty :D 
[13:54:51] <Raine>	 (extremely weird that this error goes away on cache clear though)
[16:05:31] <gifti>	 my problem seems gone now
[20:45:12] <perryprog>	 What reason would there be for someone with skipcaptcha to get an hCaptcha anyway?
[20:47:27] <perryprog>	 disregard
[20:54:28] <perryprog>	 actually no I'm still puzzled by this
[20:54:34] <perryprog>	 it wasn't abusefilter or spam blacklist
[21:00:28] <JJMC89>	 if they have <10 edits, T426973
[21:00:29] <stashbot>	 T426973: Support a configurable minimum edit count requirement before `skipcaptcha` right will take effect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T426973
[21:04:07] <perryprog>	 ahhhhh yup thank you!