[12:17:41] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> Good day all,
[12:17:42] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> 
[12:17:43] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> My name is Aliyu Yusuf I'm from Kaduna Nigeria. Nice to meet you all
[12:17:55] <wm-bb>	 <jhsoby> 👋
[12:21:41] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> 🤝🤝 (re @jhsoby: 👋)
[12:53:17] <wm-bb>	 <relgu> Welcome! (re @Shaba50: Good day all,
[12:53:18] <wm-bb>	 <relgu> 
[12:53:19] <wm-bb>	 <relgu> My name is Aliyu Yusuf I'm from Kaduna Nigeria. Nice to meet you all)
[14:13:24] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> 🤝🤝 (re @relgu: Welcome!)
[14:13:59] <wm-bb>	 <Sannita> hello and welcome! :)
[14:14:59] <wm-bb>	 <Shaba50> 👋🤝 (re @Sannita: hello and welcome! :))
[16:25:48] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> Can someone reset the password for "Mahir256" on wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org? (The usual reset password form on that site isn't sending out anything.)
[16:38:56] <quiddity>	 @mahir256 that's beta cluster, so I believe the only method for this requires server-admin access. Docs at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_and_2FA_reset
[17:01:22] <wm-bb>	 <lectrician1> Can reactions be enabled on this group please?
[17:02:17] <wm-bb>	 <Nikki> is that a good idea given that it's bridged with irc?
[17:08:59] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> It is activated in the Wikimedia Hackathon group which is also bridged. I haven't heard anyone complain over it there
[17:19:13] <wm-bb>	 <Nikki> I don't know if the bridge knows about them (I can't see them to know what to look for), but if not, then it's not exactly surprising. I've seen someone ask people to use reactions as a way to vote on something (twice, iirc), other than that, I have no idea when they're being used
[17:22:40] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> I mean it's mostly a problem if someone is waiting for a reply from someone on the other side and that person believes they answered through an emoji. Besidesfor that I don't think it hurts, because if someone asks for reactions at least the ask is in ordinary text which can be replied to
[17:24:56] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> ok, I made a task at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309230 (re @wmtelegram_bot: <quiddity> @mahir256 that's beta cluster, so I believe the only method for this requires server-admin access. Docs at https://wi...)
[17:41:42] <wm-bb>	 <Nikki> the first point is exactly why I'm asking whether it's a good idea :) if they're not visible to people on the irc side and we enable them, then we're either saying reactions are meaningless (in which case why enable them at all) or that they do have meaning and we're fine with people on the irc side only getting part of the conversation
[17:42:34] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> Well, it's easy to avoid. Just never react on a message that was bridged
[17:46:02] <wm-bb>	 <Nikki> how are people supposed to know that? and it still leads to different groups of people knowing different amounts about what's going on
[17:47:07] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> to know what's bridged is easy, to know not to react to bridged messages isn't as much
[17:47:30] <wm-bb>	 <Nikki> yeah, the latter is what I meant
[17:47:59] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> I guess since the telegram user one is reacting to is wm-bridgebot, it doesn't make sense to react to that. (re @Nikki: how are people supposed to know that? and it still leads to different groups of people knowing different amounts about what's go...)
[17:49:02] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> It's like reacting to wikilinksbot. Technically possible, but just silly
[17:58:27] <wm-bb>	 <relgu> Still, IRC users won't see the reactions to the bridges Telegram messages.
[18:00:47] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> True. So they should be treated as an easy to send private (but semipublic) emoji. What they do is to allow for an easy way to express something that does not spam the channel.
[19:07:30] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> Is there some special permission needed to edit the JSON of ZObjects in the user interface?
[19:10:00] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> (I messed up the value type of a value in a new type I created and am unable to adjust it.)
[19:10:54] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> This is not the first time I'm finding the inability to edit ZObjects manually frustrating, by the way (re @mahir256: Z10222 (https://notwikilambda.toolforge.org/wiki/Z10222) lacks a Z10222K1, so I can't actually run this function at all, and att...)
[19:12:07] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> I hope this problem is as fascinating as it was back in November (re @vrandecic: Uh, that's fascinating! I'll take a closer look to see what bugs to file about this, thanks)
[19:17:43] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> @jdforrester maybe you can help, idk (re @mahir256: Is there some special permission needed to edit the JSON of ZObjects in the user interface?)
[19:18:13] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> seeing as you're a bureaucrat on https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/