[03:38:23] *Thanks for restoring my happiness, it was my darkest moment and you showed up huge. I feel so impressed with this wonderful work well done, you have given me Joy, giving my $700 was never a mistake.. $15,320 was the best results in two days thanks for this great surprise payment, it is well received. [03:38:24] [03:38:25] **t.me/joinchat/M-tBzTJeZDM1Y2Nk* [03:38:27] *t.me/joinchat/M-tBzTJeZDM1Y2Nk* [03:38:28] *t.me/joinchat/M-tBzTJeZDM1Y2Nk* [10:23:18] 🎶 This is a Wiki Service Announcement. Want to know more about Abstract Wikipedia & Wikifunctions? You can now subscribe to the weekly newsletter and get a friendly reminder every time a new issue is published! Go to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikifunctions_%26_Abstract_Wikipedia and add yourself. This has been a Wiki Service Announcement. 🎶 [13:31:02] mahir> There's no special right to edit the raw JSON to ZObjects: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda/+/refs/heads/master/includes/ZObjectContentHandler.php#243 [13:32:18] mahir256> Also, even if I were a +bureaucrat on Beta Wikifunctions, that wouldn't give me rights on NotWikilambda. There I'm just a regular user. [13:34:09] mahir256> You should be able to edit the input type on https://notwikilambda.toolforge.org/w/index.php?title=Z10222&action=edit&view=function-editor though? [14:03:12] I'm asking about editing on beta Wikifunctions, though, since the type creation interface is broken on notwikilambda (re @wmtelegram_bot: mahir256> Also, even if I were a +bureaucrat on Beta Wikifunctions, that wouldn't give me rights on NotWikilambda. The...) [14:04:41] mahir256> Sure, go ahead if you must, though I would very strongly recommend you don't yet as the Beta Cluster service isn't working. [14:05:17] NotWikilambda and Beta Wikifunctions will differ from each other only by a few minutes depending on when the cron sync happens; it's the same code. [14:08:05] When I try to create a new type on Notwikilambda and click the + under "List items", however, what shows up isn't the same (re @wmtelegram_bot: NotWikilambda and Beta Wikifunctions will differ from each other only by a few minutes depending on when the cron sync...) [14:09:04] as what shows up on the beta cluster--that is, I'm not prompted to name the fields and am not shown the IDs of each field (Z12345K2 etc.) [14:11:31] How odd. Maybe NWL's DB is out of date? (It'll need dropping and reloading soon anyway, as will Beta Wikifunctions.) [14:13:19] So why does the interface prevent me from changing the JSON in the text field when editing a ZObject in "expert mode"? (re @wmtelegram_bot: mahir> There's no special right to edit the raw JSON to ZObjects: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/media...) [14:13:44] I don't know what you're asking? Can you file a Phabricator ticket? [14:14:46] Expert mode is a UI convenience for debugging purposes, it's not an editing control and we'll probably kill it before launch. [14:15:37] Well then I guess I was misled as to what it does :-( (re @wmtelegram_bot: Expert mode is a UI convenience for debugging purposes, it's not an editing control and we'll probably kill it before ...) [14:15:51] Sorry. :-( [14:16:30] (didn't National Sorry Day end in Australia a few hours ago?) [14:17:40] How would I do this on https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Z10005&action=edit&view=zobject-editor (change the type of the first field to Z10004)? (re @wmtelegram_bot: mahir256> You should be able to edit the input type on https://notwikilambda.toolforge.org/w/index.php?title=Z10222&ac...) [14:21:48] mahir256> Well, most of the UX is still not finished, and you absolutely shouldn't try to use the object editor on a function, but the function editor is broken on that page somehow, so change the Z10005K1 type (where it says "ZObject" above the input box with that label). Hmm, except that also seems broken? [14:22:23] mahir256> This isn't something people are working on right now, so it's a mess and doesn't necessarily work. [14:24:09] That's where the ability to load/edit raw JSON might be helpful; if this isn't done in "expert mode", then on what page *is* this done? (re @wmtelegram_bot: mahir> There's no special right to edit the raw JSON to ZObjects: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/media...) [14:25:03] I've created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309317 to look at this failure more. [14:25:07] (@cmassaro told me that this is what's frequently done anyways in development, so if there is no restriction on raw JSON editing it would be great for other users to know how) [15:59:56] (sorry for tiring you of my complaints...) (re @wmtelegram_bot: I've created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309317 to look at this failure more.) [17:47:29] mahir256: no way, it's great to have you involved.