[15:04:03] <kindrobot>	 Sorry if this is a repost. I just realized I wasn't in this room. :o We have our community volunteer meeting today at 18:30 UTC (https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675708242) at https://meet.jit.si/AWVolunteersCorner
[15:33:13] <wm-bb>	 <Sannita> @kindrobot, thanks you actually did what I planned to do in a few minutes :D
[15:40:03] <Nikhil61>	 can anyone elaborate what wiki lambda does or used for?
[15:40:03] <Nikhil61>	 Like I read this https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia but does not understand much
[15:41:44] <kindrobot>	 Hey Nikhil61 :) I'd suggest watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oips1aW738Q . The first half is background on existing projects, and the second half gets into what Abstract Wikipedia is.
[15:42:22] <Nikhil61>	 okk let me watch it
[15:42:23] <Nikhil61>	 Thanks
[15:42:59] <kindrobot>	 Great! Let me know if you have questions afterwards.
[16:32:35] <Nikhil61>	 kindrobot So what I understand is that through abstract wikipedia, one can submit the facts in abstract manner and then code will turn this into different languages in a narrative way.
[16:46:39] <James_F>	 Nikhil61: Sort-of; the facts will be taken from Wikidata, rather than another place, but yes.
[16:48:54] <Nikhil61>	 okk, Also what is wikifunction?
[16:48:54] <Nikhil61>	 I have done the setup and I have seen in docs they are quite a lot of time refering to Z object or Z type
[16:48:55] <Nikhil61>	 What does they mean?
[16:49:29] <Nikhil61>	 I know these are lot of questions I am asking
[16:49:30] <Nikhil61>	 srry for that
[17:07:05] <kindrobot>	 Wikilambda AKA Wikifunctions is a place where users can specify functions and run other users functions. You can think of it as the engine that powers Abstract Wikipedia.
[17:09:26] <kindrobot>	 For instance, a user might write a function on Wikifunctions that can take a city on Wikidata and output "[City] is the [nth] largest city in [city's country]."
[17:10:27] <kindrobot>	 And another user might do the same thing, but for Swahili.
[17:12:54] <Nikhil61>	 okk and what these Z object are?
[17:16:19] <kindrobot>	 Those Z objects are way of expressing abstract concepts in a well-formed manner that can be understood and acted upon by functions. For example, on our beta environment there is a Z object for dog here: https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Z10166
[17:16:37] <kindrobot>	 You can see it has a breed and a name.
[17:18:05] <Nikhil61>	 okk thanks a lot
[17:18:06] <Nikhil61>	 I got it :)
[17:18:20] <kindrobot>	 Actually, everything in Wikifunctions is a Z object: concepts, functions, function calls. The z object makes it so that we can describe an abstract concept, in a way that can easily be translated into any language.
[17:18:21] <kindrobot>	 No problem. :)
[17:54:58] <wm-bb>	 <infovarius> why to create "concepts" if we have Q-items?
[17:55:39] <Nikhil61>	 In this issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T328794
[17:55:40] <Nikhil61>	 It is said that there is a details and about tab but there is no such tab in my local setup
[17:55:40] <Nikhil61>	 http://localhost:8080/wiki/Z10166
[17:56:18] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> WE can not folllow that link :) (re @wmtelegram_bot: <Nikhil61> http://localhost:8080/wiki/Z10166)
[17:58:27] <Nikhil61>	 I mean there is details and about tab in https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Z10014 but such tabs are not coming in my local setup
[17:59:46] <wm-bb>	 <Jan_ainali> Are you on the same version? https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Version (re @wmtelegram_bot: <Nikhil61> I mean there is details and about tab in https://wikifunctions.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Z10014 but such tabs are not com...)
[18:00:50] <Nikhil61>	 yes setup today itself and have checked that my local commit and master last commit is same
[18:01:23] <Nikhil61>	 i have cloned from  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda
[18:20:29] <wm-bb>	 <Nikhil> 0835
[19:03:39] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> @mahir256 just wanted to confirm, I added a to-do to myself on how to make something that works like let in Wikifunctions and will come back to you with an example that hopefully works. Expect me to answer this week.
[19:04:22] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> ok! if you get carried away, an R5RS-to-Wikifunctions guide would be great 😊 (re @vrandecic: @mahir256 just wanted to confirm, I added a to-do to myself on how to make something that works like let in Wikifunctions and wi...)
[19:05:48] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> :D I'm rereading SICP right now, and find it highly relevant, so there we are
[19:08:02] <kindrobot>	 Nikhil61: questions about your dev setup, are probably best suited for #wikipedia-abstract-tech. I'll help you over there.