[00:03:56] Ege Re: Where to report problems, here is OK (and thanks Mahir for answering!) [00:03:56] but there are more details at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Report_a_technical_problem and the most important known bugs/issues are at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Status [00:04:56] I've filed a task that I think is perhaps /related/ to the bug you've described above, but different, at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343395 [00:04:58] Would you like to file a bug for the issue that you have experienced? I'm not sure if I understand some of the details you've described. — If you'd prefer for me to do so, please confirm which page, and which text-field, you are typing into, to get that error ("The search has provided no result"). Thanks! [00:06:29] @Ege ^ (sorry, I should've pinged again, as I split my paragraphs!) [00:08:59] I don't think I'll be able to explain myself through words properly, I'll send screenshots, so first when I write Z10022 here, I see the suggestion and click it. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/526e5df3/file_50499.jpg [00:09:38] Got it, thanks! [00:09:47] When I click it, this is what happens. Only when I delete the words and leave the Z+number behind does it work : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e41c1a89/file_50500.jpg [00:09:54] Thank you :> (re @quidditywiki: Got it, thanks!) [00:17:30] Is editing labels a permission you have to request somewhere? [00:19:45] @bgo_eiu It's currently (unintentionally) restricted to Functioneers. We hope to fix that very soon. — If you're not already listed there, please add your username to https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Apply_for_editing :) [01:49:06] I have encountered that before but it happened somehow randomly. If you have a way to replicate that consistently, that would be great! (re @Ege: When I click it, this is what happens. Only when I delete the words and leave the Z+number behind does it work) [01:51:34] I think I've got it reproducible. I merged their bug with mine, in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343395 (re @vrandecic: I have encountered that before but it happened somehow randomly. If you have a way to replicate that consistently, that would be...) [01:52:05] Sweet. Reproducible bugs are the best bugs. [02:51:15] I filed T343400 for that [04:41:45] There should be now more space between the language bubble and the text (I didn't file a task, because there already was T343172 and that in fact was already on the way to be deployed) (re @Nikki: I'm unreasonably bothered by the language codes being uppercase and the bubble they're in being so close to the text after them ...) [09:02:32] will the functions start from first principles as a rule or it's left to the implementations? [09:05:03] for instance [[Z10021]] uses the .upper() python function to implement it [12:47:30] Nikki the language ISO code (was) is a temporary solution to signal that some content is displayed in a fallback language, and given that we already had the language chip for Monolingual text (Z11) we decided to just reuse that for the time being. We have an open proposal to make the experience with fallback labels less noisy, if you're curious you can find more on T340624. (re @ [12:47:31] vrandecic: I'll leave that with @internetam1n 🙂 Maybe the idea was trying to bother people into providing more translations...) [14:24:30] It's left to the implementations. As long as they conform to the tests and to each other, everything goes. (re @iamsabas: will the functions start from first principles as a rule or it's left to the implementations?) [16:18:49] I've just found out, that when using qqq or qqx languages, the "Try this function" box doesn't contain any input fields (there's an error code in browser console saying `badvalue`, but I'm not sure how does it correspond), example: https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/qqq/Z10001 [16:19:00] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/41f41c7c/file_50520.jpg [16:22:08] And second issue related to that area, the "Enter Inputs" message seem to be automatically converting itself to Title Case (as [[MediaWiki:Wikilambda-function-evaluator-enter-inputs/en]] contains the message in sentence case and I haven't found any other such message) - this is not viable for i18n, as in some languages such a casing is used very scarcely [16:23:24] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/81afc8f0/file_50524.jpg [16:42:38] starting to approximate the WikibaseLexeme Lua API (albeit needing to supply lexeme JSON explicitly): https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z10037 [16:53:46] thanks for reporting this, can you please open a bug on Phabricator about that? Or do you want us to do that? (re @Msz2001: I've just found out, that when using qqq or qqx languages, the "Try this function" box doesn't contain any input fields (there's...) [16:55:47] @msz2001 Thanks for the bug-reports! For the second issue I've filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343473 [17:02:44] Yeah, I'll report the issue with qqq and qqx soon (re @Sannita: thanks for reporting this, can you please open a bug on Phabricator about that? Or do you want us to do that?) [17:05:50] Thank you ❤️ (re @Msz2001: Yeah, I'll report the issue with qqq and qqx soon) [17:10:01] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343478 [17:30:27] We now have {{Z}} and {{Z+}} (with the caveats that the labels returned are first in English, then in whatever language the first label in the object JSON is) [17:35:40] ...though I see now that regular links are already auto-converted; hmmm [17:39:00] There's a very strange thing with links though. They 'remember' target language code from a person who was recently purging it. When I visited {{Z}}, it linked to Bengali page, but after purging it's to Polish, even when I visit it in incognito, where UI language is English. Could you please confirm? You should be able to see the same effect on my sandbox with an ordinary, hard-c [17:39:01] oded, link: [[User:Msz2001/sandbox]] [17:39:57] yup I see /view/pl/Z10000 in your sandbox too [17:40:32] Okay, I'll file it to Phabricator [17:52:15] Done: [[T343483]] [17:53:02] T343483 [18:01:59] Oh, hmm, that's possibly not fixable, sadly. MediaWiki really isn't happy with us trying to make things actually multi-lingual. :-( [18:05:31] Oh, it's sounds like a significant usability concern... [18:05:36] Not that it matters that much, but the side of the page which things appear seems to be unpredictable depending on which link I click : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e0475c5f/file_50526.jpg [18:05:37] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/76e26b03/file_50527.jpg [18:08:39] how might we rerun/(queue the rerunning of) a particular test case? the one at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z10041 is failing for some reason despite the expected and actual results being identical [21:31:55] If you change either the test or the implementation a tiny bit, it should retrigger the test [21:33:02] I am more confused about where the "wrong content type" validation error comes from. I think that's what's blocking the test to pass. [21:33:25] Note, I think you can approve an implementation even if the tests fail, just in case this remains a blocker. [21:40:18] *Update*: here's the current status of Wikifunctions. [21:40:19] * everyone can read Wikifunctions [21:40:20] * logged-in users can call functions and edit outside of the main namespace. We can start building a community. Say hi on [[Wikifunctions:Project chat]]! [21:40:22] * users with the functioneer role can edit object pages. In order to apply for this role, go to [[Wikifunctions:Apply for editing]]. We have so far given this role out to more people every day, there will be another batch later today. [21:40:23] * We are still remaining a bit quiet are not sending out the message to the wider community, as we still have a few blocking issues to work through. Our current target is Monday.