[00:15:42] Wow, the script for that video was really well made. Really clear, and truly inspiring. 👏👏👏👏 (re @vrandecic: Newsletter 123: Wikifunctions is starting up - https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/08/07/wikifunctions-is-starting-up/) [03:59:53] When I clicked the "Talk" button on the Z10096 page, it took me to the "Talk:Z10096&uselang=bn" page instead of the "Talk:10096" page. 😕 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/89287806/file_50683.jpg [04:37:06] yup, already reported (re @wmtelegram_bot: @ebraminio thanks for the bug report about &uselang links! Filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343588 -- If y...) [06:58:12] And no one with budget at WMF cares enough about it to set up a dedicated server optimized for video conferences (re @Sannita: We don't use the Wikimedia instance of Jitsi because it's bugged and deprecated) [08:08:34] Edit button could have the css of the buttons (like Approve but primary), the Create links can be moved to the table header : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/07a0c4fe/file_50686.jpg [08:09:07] something like this? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/d59ef7ca/file_50687.jpg [08:41:52] It's not about the budget, it's about the staffing, the only one who maintained it is already stretched thin by so many things that they need to do (re @Jan_ainali: And no one with budget at WMF cares enough about it to set up a dedicated server optimized for video conferences) [08:42:59] To me, staffing is about budget. If the current staff is stretched, hire a new team of four people to run this service. Which obviously needs a budget. (re @Sannita: It's not about the budget, it's about the staffing, the only one who maintained it is already stretched thin by so many things t...) [09:02:34] About the workshop in the Wikimania hackathon — I'm being asked if this would be a session targeted at newcomers, or at established contributors in the Wikimedia tech space. I know the goal of the project is to not require specialized technical/programming knowledge to be able to contribute to wikifunctions, but I'm not sure this is something that is assumed to be the case alre [09:02:35] ady, or if it's something the project will progress towards in the coming months. That would determine whether the workshop would be scheduled in the newcomer sessions or in the unconference sessions. Let me know what you recommend! [11:39:04] it isn't possible to have a "preview" before saving? [11:59:50] [[Z10567]] I cheated 😅 [15:31:35] @Jan_ainali: WMF doesn't even have 4 DBAs. I don't think anyone is going to build a 4 person team to run a video chat app. [15:37:34] https://www.wikifunctions.org/w/index.php?title=Wikifunctions:Python_implementations&action=edit&redlink=1 [15:37:46] this page is linked in the implementation tutorial but it's a red link [15:38:09] same for js https://www.wikifunctions.org/w/index.php?title=Wikifunctions:JavaScript_implementations&action=edit&redlink=1 [16:51:17] hey, [16:51:17] I've got some time (finally) to look more into Wikifunctions (I just applied for the rights and hope to learn more during Wikimania ;) ). [16:51:19] I stumble upon a question: is there a way to have an automatic list of all functions? I naively tried to look at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Z8&namespace= but it didn't work :/ [16:53:29] [[Special:ListZObjectsByType/Z8]] (re @Nicolas: hey, [16:53:29] I've got some time (finally) to look more into Wikifunctions (I just applied for the rights and hope to learn more during W...) [16:55:15] thanks a lot, I added it at the bottom of https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Catalogue ;) (re @mahir256: [[Special:ListZObjectsByType/Z8]]) [21:53:07] 2752 [21:56:41] @waldyrious by the way, I won't be in Singapore until the 16th. If we can plan that, I would appreciate. Otherwise, there will be enough people who can help without me too :) [21:59:45] Hmm. There seem to be newcomer-focused sessions on day 1 of the hackathon (15 Aug), but not in the other days. I'm not sure that means there _couldn't_ be beginner-focused sessions on the other days, I could try to figure that out. But before that, there needs to be a decision about what the audience of the workshop should be: newcomers, or established editors with at least some [21:59:46] technical proficiency? (re @vrandecic: @waldyrious by the way, I won't be in Singapore until the 16th. If we can plan that, I would appreciate. Otherwise, there will b...) [22:02:12] Obviously everyone is a newbie to Wikifunctions :) - given the in person audience of Wikimania, I would assume that most newbies will be more interested in the more established projects. So I'm fine with saying "people who are already Wikimedia editors" [22:04:35] Cool, makes sense. In that case there should be no problem in scheduling the workshop for one of the unconference slots, which are available (if I'm reading the hackathon schedule (https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Hackathon/Schedule) correctly) on the 16th, 17th and 18th, in all cases starting from 5pm. Do you have a preference for one of these days? [22:11:36] I have two events on the 17th, and I arrive on the morning of the 16th, so I guess my preference would be the 18th. This would also allow us to invite folks in the presentation to the session. [22:12:10] Not sure if @jdforrester or @quidditywiki have further constraints [22:26:59] That works for me! (My only constraint is I'm helping with "Mind the Gap" event all day on the 15th.) +1 for 18th. [22:55:39] The creation of this entry: https://wikibase.world/wiki/Item:Q271 [22:55:40] [22:55:41] raises a question: is Wikifunctions a Wikibase? I would think not. [22:59:59] Wikifunctions is not a Wikibase instance [23:00:19] Is it a Wikilambda instance? [23:03:16] That it is [23:17:28] well, it is a Wikibase client ([[Special:PermaLink/34030]]) [23:17:56] and that seems to be what the wikibase.world entry says too (it doesn’t claim that WikibaseRepo is used) [23:18:22] Ah. And so is English Wikipedia then [23:18:29] yeah, in the same way [23:19:06] (perhaps that’s still not in scope for wikibase.world, idk) [23:43:36] oops (re @harej: The creation of this entry: https://wikibase.world/wiki/Item:Q271 [23:43:37] [23:43:38] raises a question: is Wikifunctions a Wikibase? I would think...) [23:47:07] Being a Wikibase Client doesn’t make you a Wikibase site per se, or else Wikibooks would be a Wikibase [23:49:57] Yeah, I originally thought Wikilambda was built on top of Wikibase with the way it worked