[08:43:19] thank you @lucaswerkmeister! the codex team has been working on a chip container (see T337095), and here's a preview of the upcoming compontent https://doc.wikimedia.org/codex/main/components/demos/chip-input.html. i also flagged to them that is not immediately clear that people have to press the enter/return key after each chip (or alias in our case). (re @lucaswerkmeister: ok:) [08:45:23] speaking of the aliases field, how do people feel about this component? asking because i'm unsure if a tag/chip solution suits well potential multi-word aliases. any thoughts? [08:58:17] microsoft had some plan for it https://www.infoworld.com/article/3653377/microsoft-pushes-optional-type-annotations-for-javascript.html which isn't anywhere yet I think [08:58:19] [08:58:20] but right now we are using node.js as the js engine, if we wanted to have access to typing we perhaps could just node's alternatives such as deno or bun which do have typescript support in the similar way with their js interpreter [08:58:22] [08:58:23] but well, even a python and leaving js for future would be great I think (re @vrandecic: I don't think Javascript has optional typing?) [09:02:36] Hi there [09:03:21] Too many problems here! [09:03:40] The search function is severely broken [09:04:25] @cvictororovich please insert the number [09:04:39] or you will be blocked by the system automatically [09:05:12] 3216 [09:06:26] thanks, about the Search function we already had some discussion opened at the Village Pump [09:06:58] I'll open a Phabricator ticket later and I'll link it here, but if you can be specific about which problems you encountered, it would be great [09:07:06] so that we can address them specifically [09:08:20] See what I wrote on Project Chat [09:08:43] (I'm Unite together on all Wikimedia sites) [09:10:19] https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Project_chat#separation_of_functions,_implementations_and_tests? [09:10:22] good question [09:11:08] we have T285424 (re @Sannita: I'll open a Phabricator ticket later and I'll link it here, but if you can be specific about which problems you encountered, it ...) [09:12:22] oh noes [09:12:35] It's hard to know what I created had been created by others [09:13:57] Also, Wikidata still doesn't know about WF's existence [09:14:31] yeah, that will come in a later future (re @cvictororovich: Also, Wikidata still doesn't know about WF's existence) [09:14:59] it will require some time, we're still in limited release so for the moment is for the better [09:15:16] (Is Luca an Italian? [09:15:33] yep, I'm Italian [09:15:37] Amin too [09:15:46] A belated ciao for you! [09:15:49] :) [09:15:56] I'm Chinese [09:15:57] 🙂 [09:16:26] 我讲中文。你们会中文吗？ [09:16:40] I speak Chinese. Do you speak it? [09:16:47] not yet [09:17:07] Variants of Chinese is also a major problem [09:17:39] Many words are actually shared between variants [09:18:58] This one should be solved much later tho [09:19:13] Difficult but not too urgent [09:32:56] I hate that type of widget in general for editing: [09:32:58] - I don't know how to expect the keyboard to work (how do you finish adding one and start adding another? space? tab? enter? how do I remove one? backspace? shift-tab to the x? how do I edit one? can I just move the arrow key into it or do I have to shift-tab? _can_ I even edit it? will it even work properly via the keyboard?) [09:32:59] - they're very likely to interfere with what I'm used to being able to do in input fields in some way or another [09:33:01] - it's not obvious whether you can edit existing values at all, let alone how [09:33:02] - the position of the x being dependent on the length of the text means it's in an unpredictable position on the screen, which ruins any sort of muscle memory you might have when using a mouse or touchscreen, you have to see where the x is before you can aim for it, and removing one repositions all the ones after it which makes removing more than one even harder (re @internetam1n [09:33:04] : speaking of the aliases field, how do people feel about this component? asking because i'm unsure if a tag/chip solution suits w...) [09:38:55] thank you SO much! i'll make sure to share your thorough feedback with the codex team as well! (re @Nikki: I hate that type of widget in general for editing: [09:38:56] - I don't know how to expect the keyboard to work (how do you finish adding o...) [09:43:06] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/aa42e48a/giphy.mp4 [09:59:35] What's the requirement for TA here on WF? [10:30:50] TA? (re @cvictororovich: What's the requirement for TA here on WF?) [10:30:55] oh translation admin [10:31:41] Well I’m already one on wikidata [10:32:41] [[WF:PERM]] is where you can request TA rights [10:33:17] Any requirements? [10:33:27] Is this a sufficient reason (re @cvictororovich: Well I’m already one on wikidata) [10:38:20] There are no specific requirements, but I think having TA elsewhere is helpful [11:27:54] For now, you could use ctrl+f on [[Special:ListObjectsByType/Z8]] (re @cvictororovich: It's hard to know what I created had been created by others) [13:00:44] With 2 more RfA's coming up later today, I am happy to close Wd-Ryan however I won't be closing Manjiro5 since I am an active opposer and don't want to look like I am supervoting my oppose so if someone else could close that, that would be great. [14:57:57] Seems there’s even not much requirement for requesting local sysop [14:58:42] Is it possible to get a sysop flag here without the access elsewhere [15:00:31] to be granted an access to sysop, I'd say it's easier if you're sysop already elsewhere [15:00:35] I’m strongly willing to help out with many affairs [15:00:56] If it’s possible I’ll place a request later [15:01:17] You just add a request at [[WF:RFG]] and as long as you meet the requirements you will become an admin [15:01:57] Its just being an admin elsewhere makes it easier since there is no background of your activity on WF since it has only been editable for a month [15:04:29] No written requirements is the most draconian requirement (re @Terasail: You just add a request at [[WF:RFG]] and as long as you meet the requirements you will become an admin) [15:05:29] The requirements are at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions/Minimum_voting_requirements (re @cvictororovich: No written requirements is the most draconian requirement) [15:53:31] I wonder if a user with few global edits can grab a functioneer flag here [15:53:46] He’s my friend IRL [15:54:32] I know that he’s good at building functions [15:54:52] (A user major in math [15:56:02] Of course I’d like to instruct him [15:56:09] I'd say if a trusted user with a good track record like you vouches for them on wiki, yes [15:56:44] What stands for “good track records” (re @vrandecic: I'd say if a trusted user with a good track record like you vouches for them on wiki, yes) [15:56:49] In detail [15:57:39] You would qualify. People who seem to have contributed to the projects productively for a while. I check if there are blocks, rights, edits, languages, roughly [15:59:29] Oh you’re that WMF staff? [16:00:27] I'm WMF staff, yes [16:00:47] Czech? [16:01:01] Close, Croatian [16:02:58] I’d like to ask you something off topic, maybe in DM? Something about translation [16:03:30] Not directly related to WF do unsuitable here [16:04:59] Is it okay? [16:06:05] Sure [17:01:16] Is it normal that in an implementation, the “Try this implementation” feature requires it to be approved for its function? [17:01:26] For example, in Z10544: : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f4821a11/file_52040.jpg [17:02:25] what's the result of this? (re @vrandecic: I agree with you. We're still working this out, and the current situation is a compromise between security and product. But I ho...) [17:02:57] (assuming that message was a response to this one) (re @Jan_ainali: Do one have to publish an implementation in order to "Try this implementation"?) [17:43:16] We're still working on this. No, it's not great that you can't test out implementations. No, this is not how it should be. We're working on changing this. [17:55:42] Newsletter #125: Wikimania digest, CoSMo language, GFpedia demo, CCKS keynote - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Updates/2023-08-31 [19:50:26] I really liked the GF demo! Is there any easy way to provide feedback about the rendered output in specific languages? I have some feedback about the Portuguese rendering for the Netherlands article. (re @vrandecic: Newsletter #125: Wikimania digest, CoSMo language, GFpedia demo, CCKS keynote - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikiped...) [23:42:45] Yes, if implementation of the function isn’t usable (re @AracasDragon: Is it normal that in an implementation, the “Try this implementation” feature requires it to be approved for its function?) [23:42:56] (Did you login?