[02:26:45] Maybe they could be written down in the discussion pages if they would be helpful [05:48:43] What should be written? (re @Ege: Maybe they could be written down in the discussion pages if they would be helpful) [05:56:50] Pseudocode [06:44:09] The pseudo code of a given function [07:02:47] Maybe unnecessary (re @Ege: The pseudo code of a given function) [07:03:02] Python codes are straightforward enough [07:11:07] perhaps it could go in a "Request a function" feature? [07:12:21] or user could create the Zitem with metadata and write the pseudocode in the discussion page of that item (but how to "discover" the functions which need to be implemented?) [07:20:09] It's a question (re @iamsabas: or user could create the Zitem with metadata and write the pseudocode in the discussion page of that item (but how to "discover"...) [07:20:27] Sometimes I don't really what functions are missing [07:20:35] Or haven't been implemented [07:21:22] What about new datatypes? [07:25:25] In theory, sure. But in practice there are often practical considerations that aren't immediately obvious. (re @cvictororovich: Python codes are straightforward enough) [07:26:12] How can I get involved in WikiLambda's development? I know little about its current structure [07:29:01] Maybe there could be an Abstract Wikifunctions that could render an algorithm in various (programming) languages, including pseudocode 😁 [07:30:03] You make it sound like python would be easier to learn than any ordinary language 😀 (re @cvictororovich: Python codes are straightforward enough) [07:30:44] It's easier than C at least [07:32:16] Possibly, but could it, even in theory, be easier than any regular language that I already know? (re @cvictororovich: It's easier than C at least) [07:32:39] What's your languages? [07:32:52] Hard to say (re @Jan_ainali: Possibly, but could it, even in theory, be easier than any regular language that I already know?) [07:33:19] https://xkcd.com/353/ (re @Jan_ainali: Possibly, but could it, even in theory, be easier than any regular language that I already know?) [07:34:01] No. It's super easy to say. If I know something it is axiom that it is easier than something I don't know. (re @cvictororovich: Hard to say) [07:36:22] "English is much easier than Arabic for I don't read Arabic" [07:37:01] But the reality is grammar of Arabic is quirky [07:38:06] No. "English is much easier _to me_ than Arabic for I don't read Arabic." (re @cvictororovich: "English is much easier than Arabic for I don't read Arabic") [07:38:24] (You're Swedish? [07:40:27] Yeah, I don't read Swedish, however I cannot say that Swedish is harder to learn than English: after all, I'm talking from my perspective [07:42:34] even if swedish were easier to learn than english, jan's point is that you can read something written in english more easily than something written in swedish, because you *already know* english [07:42:54] True, that's also my pojnt [08:12:13] And my point was, everyone about to write something on the wiki knows at least one human language, but they might not know Python specifically, hence pseudocode might serve a purpose when discussing a function. (re @cvictororovich: True, that's also my point) [11:41:16] how the community portal will be used? [12:36:52] This can be discussed later (re @iamsabas: how the community portal will be used?) [12:37:00] Not now [12:43:22] ok, so you are choosing the topic of the chat? [12:47:03] Like most community portals I would guess. Or do you have any other ideas? (re @iamsabas: how the community portal will be used?) [15:26:47] Just like a portal in other projects [15:36:34] I was thinking about the text "This is the central place to document Wikifunctions's to-do lists and ongoing project work. [To-do!]" (re @Jan_ainali: Like most community portals I would guess. Or do you have any other ideas?) [15:36:46] perhaps function lists should move there [15:55:34] At least it’s viable now [15:55:51] Function lists can be retained (re @iamsabas: perhaps function lists should move there) [18:43:30] @iamsabas Yeah, it's up to you all how to use the https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Community_portal - Examining other wikis for inspiration would be great! [18:43:35] I'd suggest that one core goal would be keeping it distinct from the [[Help:Contents]] page. (a lot of wikis have very similar content in both pages, which I think is confusing). [18:43:43] I was imagining something like Enwiki's setup, which is more of a "here's how you can help/participate" overview and task-sample listing. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal) Or something like Envoyage's "Maintenance panel" (https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Maintenance_panel). But it's up to you all!