[00:24:40] somebody might want to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38551120 (re @mahir256: it's on HN, at least: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38548130) [00:25:07] it's about limited supported languages and similar projects (e.g. Rosetta Code) (re @Nintendofan885: somebody might want to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38551120) [01:55:05] quiddity: is verifying the links on https://wikis.world/@wikifunctions still on your radar? [01:58:49] I assume an interface editor on each of those wikis needs to make a page like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Realme-config.json [02:11:19] Uh, would you know how to do that? (re @wmtelegram_bot: quiddity: is verifying the links on https://wikis.world/@wikifunctions still on your radar?) [02:12:43] basically what Nikki is saying, create the config file and then remove and re-add the profile fields. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:RealMe#Verifying_a_link_on_non-user_pages [02:12:43] I know how to verify I Wikipedia user page, but no idea how to verify Wikifunctions against the home page [02:13:01] also lydia said on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341085 that she had to resave the preferences on mastodon after I edited that page [02:13:09] ah, what taavi said :D [02:13:27] Ahhh, I didn't realize Nikki's was in answer to the topic [02:13:45] sorry, I could've been clearer :D [02:14:04] Ok, I can do the resaving on Mastodon [02:14:22] I assume RealMe is already installed on Wikifunctions? [02:14:58] yeah, it's listed on https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Special:Version [02:22:37] I added the config to MediaWiki:RealMe-config.json [02:25:29] I keep changing the website entry on wikis.world but it doesn't verify [02:25:46] Ideas for stuff to try out? [02:27:31] try purging the main page in case it's in the edge caches? [02:42:27] That did the trick! [02:43:12] Now the link to Wikifunctions is verified [07:01:55] I've also run into a Mastodon issue where it doesn't "re-check" already written URLs. It could be "hacked" by putting it in another field in the profile page (essentially swapping them around), and that made Mastodon look again. [12:02:58] Should functions be deleted or redirected if they are duplicates? [12:10:45] That's a good question: I think this could be a Village pump discussion [12:11:00] personally speaking, I'd evaluate a Wikidata solution, i.e. redirect [12:15:02] I'd expect it to be like wikidata, where ids are supposed to be stable, because who would want to use it otherwise [12:16:56] (at least for calling it remotely rather than copy/pasting the code into your own code) [12:21:21] In theory, if functions are duplicates, each function is an implementation of the other(s) (by composition). [12:22:28] not breaking links is also general good web practice, and redirects are nicer for editors (who can still see the history and undo edits) compared to deletions (where only admins can do that) [12:44:42] I'm just laughing remembering how the National Library Service of Italy established redirects in 2019 or 2020 [12:44:42] [12:44:44] The service was established in 1985, you might guess what happened when they merged stuff (and that would happen frequently) (re @Nikki: I'd expect it to be like wikidata, where ids are supposed to be stable, because who would want to use it otherwise) [12:44:52] Sorry for the Ot [12:45:13] I agree (re @Nikki: not breaking links is also general good web practice, and redirects are nicer for editors (who can still see the history and und...) [12:45:52] I will probably post something tomorrow because there are now two string length functions [12:46:35] Is there a way to redirect without changing the page-type to wikitext? [12:49:52] oh no 😭 (re @Sannita: I'm just laughing remembering how the National Library Service of Italy established redirects in 2019 or 2020 [12:49:53] [12:49:54] The service was e...) [14:28:39] FYI there's T344973 [14:35:20] 9119 [14:35:35] 0332 [14:36:58] Welcome @Mrb_Rafi! [14:39:14] thanks for the warm welcome, @nlikomitros [14:39:15] I just stumbled upon wikifunction and thought contributing here can help me in my academics also, couldn't resist myself from joining the group [14:39:17] Now I can tell my parents that doing wikimedia doesn't harm my studies he he [14:49:25] Yeah, we've all been there :) welcome to the group [16:46:41] @Mrb_Rafi Bienvenue! [16:48:32] Or I should say… [16:48:43] As-salam alaykum! [16:51:32] Walaikum as Salam 🥰 (re @cvictorovich: As-salam alaykum!) [16:52:43] I guessed you are a Bengali [16:54:37] It’s really impressive that many technicians on Wikimedia sites are of Bengali descent [16:55:12] Though it seems to be an “underdeveloped” country [17:00:17] maybe let's not have this conversation [17:00:35] Okay sure [17:01:50] Someone suggested me that it’s better to make separate functions for determining “is this verb in this group” [17:02:11] Rather than “which group does this verb belong to” [17:03:04] If I recall correctly it’s an idea by Nicolas [17:04:28] Or? Another choice is make functions here query Wikidata lexèmes directly instead of writing the list inside the function [17:05:40] But I can tell that lexèmes on Wikidata is far from complete [17:06:03] That sounds like something that needs to wait until we have access to Wikidata available. That will still take a bit of time. [17:06:17] Though I’m working on it, it’s still incomplete (re @cvictorovich: But I can tell that lexèmes on Wikidata is far from complete) [17:06:37] indeed they are incomplete (re @mahir256: might I suggest adding senses (meanings) to the 10000+ lexemes in this list instead?) [17:07:22] Each group of French verbs are infinite [17:07:31] They will always be, so I think it is a good strategy to get used to it. (re @cvictorovich: But I can tell that lexèmes on Wikidata is far from complete) [17:07:33] Or large enough in number, exceeding the range we can enumerate [17:08:18] Yeah the lexème would never be complete (re @Jan_ainali: They will always be, so I think it is a good strategy to get used to it.) [17:09:36] New words are always in growth [17:13:57] Missing lexème table is updating once a week on Wednesday [17:33:36] The number of words is growing but it's infinite to begin with :D (re @cvictorovich: New words are always in growth) [17:34:06] I talk about it during the last call, I created a table for Breton verb: https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Catalogue#For_Breton_verbs [17:34:56] I'll try to create functions for each cell (and I wondering if I should duplicate the table 4 times or if it's better to put up to 4 functions in each cell) [17:54:41] Yes, I'm a Bengali and from Bangladesh. [17:54:41] [17:54:43] We do have a lot of young programmers in the country but tbh none of them knows wikimedia. I'm studying in Bioinformatics engineering and trying to attract as many programmers here as possible. (Tho I'm super noob in coding things 😅) (re @cvictorovich: I guessed you are a Bengali) [19:20:32] Welcome 🤝🏽 (re @Mrb_Rafi: Yes, I'm a Bengali and from Bangladesh. [19:20:32] [19:20:34] We do have a lot of young programmers in the country but tbh none of them knows wikimed...)