[00:48:30] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Newsletter #136 (last one for the year): Looking back at  2023 for Wikifunctions - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Updates/2023-12-13
[19:43:58] <Akaibu1>	 o/
[19:44:59] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Hello!
[19:51:38] <Akaibu1>	 so, I was wondering, i brought up Wikifunction over on WIktionary's Discord a few weeks back to see about use cases, and while it seems the immediate consensus was that the project needs to mature more, i feel like at least we could provide some input on the matter, mostly the natural string processing. for example, the English pluralizing function
[19:51:38] <Akaibu1>	 pluralizes "moose" as "mooses", which is in a superposition of being correct and incorrect
[19:52:03] <Akaibu1>	 as "mooses" is actually a correct, if outdated spelling
[19:52:23] <Akaibu1>	 and there's a million other cases for this kind of thing
[19:52:35] <wm-bb>	 <Sannita> That would be great! We need more input on the natural language part
[19:55:52] <Akaibu1>	 as i mentioned, a lot of wikimediaians(this is probably wrong way of saying this lmao) are on discord, and it seems that while the general english wikipedia discord is open to making a channel for WIkifunctions, it has a policy that says that basically it has to be brought up on the site and given consensus before being added. I bring this up here
[19:55:53] <Akaibu1>	 because i think maybe someone more veteran to the project maybe should bring it up.
[19:56:07] <Akaibu1>	 if done it would probablly help get more eyes on the project
[19:59:10] <wm-bb>	 <bgo_eiu> this is an area lexemes can help with once available to Wikifunctions 
[19:59:11] <wm-bb>	 <bgo_eiu> L1125123-F10 ābbā is like moose, in that it is a plural form which is expected to stay the same in the singular
[19:59:12] <wm-bb>	 <bgo_eiu> however L1125123-F2 ābbe is still in use following the regular plural pattern
[20:00:39] <wm-bb>	 <Sannita> I'll take note and ask if there is consensus about it, for now we're making the most of the Telegram channel (re @wmtelegram_bot: <Akaibu1> as i mentioned, a lot of wikimediaians(this is probably wrong way of saying this lmao) are on discord, and it seems th...)
[20:02:08] <Akaibu1>	 i actually asked the people on wiktionary and "wikimedians" sounds better lmao
[20:04:24] <wm-bb>	 <Sannita> Yeah, it's more correct this way :)
[20:05:38] <Akaibu1>	 bgo_eiu the problem is less that moose being both plural and singular and more that both are technically correct, and there might be a case where one might need to leave a "mooses" as is
[20:05:54] <Akaibu1>	 probably as a "[sic]" function?
[20:05:56] <Akaibu1>	 idk
[22:12:19] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> The functions on Wikifunctions as they are right now are only meant to work for regular words. The exceptions are better caught by listing them comprehensively, and Wikifunctions won't be good for that.
[23:08:50] <wm-bb>	 <Egezort> I'm waiting on int being an input, after that I want to write Turkish conjugations for verbs (re @Sannita: That would be great! We need more input on the natural language part)
[23:09:30] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Oh! Why do you need numbers for that?
[23:17:47] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> 1st/2nd/3rd person?
[23:31:20] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Oh, I see! I thought we would model that with enums
[23:31:31] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Up to us I mean