[02:15:39] surely the people who want to discuss wikifunctions on the english wikipedia's discord would be in the best position to argue for them adding a separate channel? (re @wmtelegram_bot: as i mentioned, a lot of wikimediaians(this is probably wrong way of saying this lmao) are on discord, and it seems th...) [02:22:14] (it doesn't seem like it would go down well if people who aren't from the english wikipedia and aren't from their discord start getting involved in how they organise their chats) [03:19:16] Nikki: nope, [03:19:16] re Feret: Generally for channels I want someone who's a member of that project/group/area to approach it and seek a consensus that said group wishes to use Discord and have a channel for discussing their topic, and therefore link back to it within their documentation. I also like to see that it's a topic with some frequency of discussion. [03:20:53] the official disccusion for wikidata is hosted on the english wikipedia discord and unless someone would like to handle making a discord themselves(with all the moderating and what not that implies)..... [03:57:36] (Wikimedia Community Discord moderator): we don't like to create channels that don't get much use, as it increases moderation work and it's difficult to remove channels once created [03:57:50] Wikifuctions/Abstract Wikipedia is not a common topic of discussion on the server [11:17:59] says who? wikidata's quarterly office hours are held on telegram, and discord isn't even listed on the main page (re @wmtelegram_bot: the official disccusion for wikidata is hosted on the english wikipedia discord and unless someone would like to handl...) [11:23:22] Yes, and a boolean for isPlural (re @mahir256: 1st/2nd/3rd person?) [11:31:02] also, given that wikifunctions is intended to be a multilingual project, I don't think it would be appropriate to have an official discord channel be on a server for the english wikipedia [12:44:24] ood everything to anyone everywhere💜 This might be wrong place and please forgive me if so is. Regarding guidance manipulation/4correction misbehaving hardware, contact solutions for persons with disabilities can/should contact, is there any recommendations so far💁‍♀️ [15:44:00] I would suggest both to be modeled as enums, eg verb form(person, grammatical number) instead of verb form(integer, boolean). I mean, both could exist. (re @Egezort: Yes, and a boolean for isPlural) [15:44:13] But that's something that's probably better discussed on wiki [15:44:26] not a great suggestion when we lack enum types [15:46:41] Admitted, but that's the same situation we had in Wikidata, when we were lacking many types still [15:47:16] It's temporary. New types are in the pipeline and will be coming soon [18:09:01] Especially that "1st", "2nd", "3rd" can be groups of variants. There are languages where there are two "1st persons in plural" and they differ in whether the listener is in the group "we". There are also cases like German formal and informal sie/Sie etc. (re @vrandecic: I would suggest both to be modeled as enums, eg verb form(person, grammatical number) instead of verb form(inte [18:09:02] ger, boolean). I ...) [19:07:48] Yep, +1. [19:07:48] Plus many other strange cases, in Breton we have a 0th person for instance and 2nd plural has two variants in the future tense (re @Msz2001: Especially that "1st", "2nd", "3rd" can be groups of variants. There are languages where there are two "1st persons in plural" a...) [19:10:15] Waiting for enum, I still created subfunctions for each person/tense. I'll create a global composited function when enum will be available [21:19:03] Yeah, I'm doing the same for Croatian [21:19:11] What's the 0th person? [22:14:34] When the subject is unknown/undefined, like in English "one says" or "we all know" (re @vrandecic: What's the 0th person?) [23:18:37] Oh wow, that's cool