[10:33:51] Please, please translate the properties if you want to make your efforts most effective. Here is a query for Hebrew. Entity Explosion doesn't even bother listing a property if it doesn't have a label in your language. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=-haslabel%3Ahe&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns120=1 (re @amire80: In Wikidata, there are millions of [10:33:53] items and thousands of properties, and I cannot see anywhere how many of them are not yet tra...) [10:48:53] It's a bit technical, but I still don't know the correct answer to how to choose the "element equality function" for Z13230. The test fails if you choose list equality (my first preference), or code point equality (my second preference). It passes if you choose object equality (my third preference, but I know you disagree with object equality), or string equality (which doesn't m [10:48:54] ake sense to me as none of the data structures are supposed to be strings). In the end I just stumbled through trying them all. (re @vrandecic: I was traveling this week and trying to catch up on open threads here. If I missed something please let me know!) [10:50:11] Oops, no, I meant Z13232 [10:53:49] fwiw, I think it should actually be “list equality”, since each of the objects in the evaluated typed list is itself a typed list… 🤷‍♂️ (re @Toby: Oops, no, I meant Z13232) [11:00:48] Agreed, that was my first preference and first attempt, but the test fails, so I'm not sure if "element equality function" behaves as you or I expect. (re @Al: fwiw, I think it should actually be “list equality”, since each of the objects in the evaluated typed list is itself a typed lis...) [11:03:36] @vrandecic this was for you (re @Toby: It hasn't changed for me. In fact I was wondering what you meant in the newsletter when you said Z10755 displays correctly as of...) [11:15:42] Thought so… I tried changing an element within one of the lists in Z13236 and the test still passed. I’ll set it up as a formal z20 later (if you don’t beat me to it). (re @Toby: Agreed, that was my first preference and first attempt, but using that the test fails, so I'm not sure if "element equality func...) [13:46:01] I actually started doing it systematically once, but gave up. Even though there are much fewer properties than items, they, too, need grouping by topic. There are properties whose name I can easily translate, but there are also properties whose name require professional knowledge that I don't have. After translating a bunch of things that I know how to translate, the first result [13:46:02] s of search or queries turn into a list of terms I have no idea about, and what's even worse is that they come from a mix of topics: astronomy, molecular biology, archaeology, etc. (re @Toby: Please, please translate the properties if you want to make your efforts most effective. Here is a query for Hebrew. Entity Expl...) [13:47:08] If there was grouping by topic, I could ask a friend who knows Hebrew and who knows this topic well to complete a translation, but there is no grouping. [13:52:02] And of course, opening one property page ot item page, translating the label, closing that page, them opening the next one, and so on, is a very inefficient workflow. Real translation systems show a parallel list of necessary translations on one page: Transifex, Weblate, Pootle, Pontoon, Crowdin, Onesky, and, of course, our own translatewiki.net. And they all have group selectors [13:52:03] and progress bars. [16:24:26] 3736