[00:27:08] Happy new year! [01:26:48] I've added a general Create object as well (re @amire80: Looks like I have a permission to edit the sidebar. Maybe because I'm global sysop.) [03:00:20] What is the usefulness of that? Are objects other than functions created often? (re @Feeglgeef: I've added a general Create object as well) [03:00:46] Yes (re @amire80: What is the usefulness of that? Are objects other than functions created often?) [03:00:56] Implementations, tests, etc. [03:01:09] We get types and type converters oftem [03:01:24] Some persistent strings exist [03:01:36] Some persistent typed lists/maps [03:01:48] Some persistent floats and natural numbers [03:10:44] Aren't tests and implementations usually created from the function page? (re @Feeglgeef: Implementations, tests, etc.) [03:11:00] As for the rest, are they very common? [03:11:05] Sure, sometimes (re @amire80: Aren't tests and implementations usually created from the function page?) [03:11:48] If we just take a guess based on pageviews more than "Help" is clicked (re @amire80: As for the rest, are they very common?) [03:12:38] If you know you are creating a test for a given function from any page the Create object is faster (re @amire80: Aren't tests and implementations usually created from the function page?) [03:15:33] I'd remove it, it doesn't have much the Main page doesn't (re @Feeglgeef: If we just take a guess based on pageviews more than "Help" is clicked) [03:28:18] https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Create-object-url is probably unnecessary. My understanding of the extra-weird Special:Sidebar syntax is not perfect, but AFAIK, it would be needed for complex URLs with ? and & and stuff. This page is just Special:CreateObject, so the line in Special:Sidebar can be simply `Special:CreateObject|create-object`, and the page [03:28:18] https://www. [03:28:18] wikifunctions.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Create-object-url can be deleted. (re @Feeglgeef: I've added a general Create object as well) [03:28:58] (Also, I am not entirely convinced that this item is needed in the sidebar at all, but whatever, I don't mind.) [03:29:20] K (re @amire80: https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Create-object-url is probably unnecessary. My understanding of the extra-weird Spec...) [03:29:34] [[w:WP:SOFIXIT]] [03:30:02] Also I'm working on a new Generic type, Z21260 [03:30:13] Like a typed pair but one type [03:30:20] And with more semantic value [03:30:26] Oh, I thought that I can't delete, but I can. [03:30:44] You have global sysop (re @amire80: Oh, I thought that I can't delete, but I can.) [03:30:56] That's what global sysop means [03:33:07] Yeah... but there are nuances sometimes, and I don't know them all by heart. [03:33:23] K (re @amire80: Yeah... but there are nuances sometimes, and I don't know them all by heart.) [03:57:30] Does anyone object to me putting a create function link on the main page? [04:00:27] Going to do it and wait for an objection [04:49:15] Some places opted out (re @amire80: Yeah... but there are nuances sometimes, and I don't know them all by heart.) [04:49:37] Look at the global user group description [04:50:44] L (re @cvictorovich: Some places opted out) [04:50:58] I'm changing the main page a bit [04:51:32] If anyone objects to anything let me know and I can fix it or we can try to reach a greater community consensus [05:02:28] The new CSS is *very* bold and modern. I wouldn't be mad at all if someone changed or reverted it [05:05:55] It's much much more mobile friendly now, which is a huge plus [11:34:23] it now scrolls horizontally on my phone and the content isn't aligned properly [11:36:48] Feeglgeef Could you take a look at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Requests_for_deletions#Z13284 [11:38:14] and I'm not sure what you mean by much more mobile friendly, it worked a lot better before for me, now it needs a bigger screen [11:46:01] in fact, the only mobile/small screen issue I really had before was the horizontal banner being too narrow and taking up half of the screen, and that's still the case (and not specific to the main page) [11:58:14] (ok not quite true, I also have an issue with how bland and generic it looks, because that makes it hard for me to distinguish/identity tabs, but that's not a mobile-specific thing and is mostly the wmf's fault, since they seem determined to remove all personality from wikimedia sites and make everything look like the browser's default styling) [16:56:56] K (re @Ameisenigel: Feeglgeef Could you take a look at https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Requests_for_deletions#Z13284) [18:44:49] It works better for me (Chrome on Pixel) (re @Nikki: and I'm not sure what you mean by much more mobile friendly, it worked a lot better before for me, now it needs a bigger screen) [18:45:46] On one hand it looks ugly AF, on the other hand you can load the Wikipedia main page perfectly on IE7 (re @Nikki: (ok not quite true, I also have an issue with how bland and generic it looks, because that makes it hard for me to distinguish/i...) [18:46:54] Tbf anyone with interface adminship can change that at any time (re @Nikki: (ok not quite true, I also have an issue with how bland and generic it looks, because that makes it hard for me to distinguish/i...) [18:47:20] It's just that nobody cares to change it and it comes bare-bones with MediaWiki by default