[09:30:08] I don’t know how to express importance in this case. I agree that it is not essential but it looks to me like a change for the worse if we cannot see the difference between lexemes, forms, items etc in their collapsed representation. Seeing the full ID is less important than seeing what sort of ID it is, but representing different things as the same (as with homographs) [09:30:08] is unhe [09:30:10] lpful and better avoided. Displaying the full ID only in a context where otherwise indistinguishable links have different referents could serve to highlight that there is such a difference, but would result in the same link having different representations in different contexts. I’m not wholly opposed to that, however. (re @internetam1n: thank you all for the feedback [09:30:10] shared so [09:30:11] far! i have a follow up quesiton if i may: how important is to see the exact/full LID?) [21:32:36] Perhaps just a letter would be enough but not take up much space? (re @Al: I don’t know how to express importance in this case. I agree that it is not essential but it looks to me like a change for the w...) [22:37:11] How would one letter help in case of homographs, we need the full identifier (re @Feeglgeef: Perhaps just a letter would be enough but not take up much space?) [22:37:49] You can expand? (re @Nicolas: How would one letter help in case of homographs, we need the full identifier) [22:39:30] It's very important for me (re @internetam1n: thank you all for the feedback shared so far! i have a follow up quesiton if i may: how important is to see the exact/full LID?) [22:43:09] You mean add 3 more clicks every time I use a function? I won't use function anymore if I have to jump through hoops just to know what the input is... (re @Feeglgeef: You can expand?) [22:43:40] Every time you use? (re @Nicolas: You mean add 3 more clicks every time I use a function? I won't use function anymore if I have to jump through hoops just to kno...) [22:43:52] You don't need to read the LID to use a function [22:44:05] Almost yes (re @Feeglgeef: Every time you use?) [22:44:27] For homographs, you might (re @Feeglgeef: You don't need to read the LID to use a function) [22:45:01] And homographs are everywhere, especially if you take into account all languages [22:45:28] You run into homographs every time you use a function (re @Nicolas: For homographs, you might) [22:45:47] It shows you language in the input box? (re @Nicolas: And homographs are everywhere, especially if you take into account all languages) [22:47:26] Look at the example again, nothing about input here (re @internetam1n: we're looking at making small improvements to the collapsed view of wikidata function calls. we're thinking about using the same...) [22:48:28] You don't run into that while using a function? You run into it when inspecting a composition, which happens infrequently enough that 2 clicks is fine (re @Nicolas: Look at the example again, nothing about input here) [22:48:46] It could be a test that someone else inputed, and that fails because it call "dog" the English verb and not "dog" the English noun [22:49:27] 95% of pageviews are functions. Seems counterintuitive to do it like that for 5% of views [22:49:56] So either expand it or hover over the link and view the id (re @Nicolas: It could be a test that someone else inputed, and that fails because it call "dog" the English verb and not "dog" the English no...) [22:50:28] So you agree? You need to see the ID (re @Feeglgeef: So either expand it or hover over the link and view the id) [22:51:00] Why hide something so fundamental [22:52:11] I agree with the general idea to make it less verbose, but ID is not verbosity, it's essential (literally here) [22:53:36] And if it's not displayed directly, as a trade-off at least it should appear on the first expansion, not the third one [22:54:18] Because IDs are inconvenient for people who don't have experience with Wikibase or Wikilambda (re @Nicolas: Why hide something so fundamental) [22:54:34] In some but few cases (re @Nicolas: So you agree? You need to see the ID)