[00:01:17] I was wrong. Today's choice was quite ambitious given that Z23543 is not yet consistently fast enough. (re @u99of9: I predict they will take on something simpler than last time! I also send apologies - now that daylight savings has switched it...) [07:19:02] Do you all see "unable to run tests" at Z23746? Any ideas why? [07:20:46] I do. And I haven’t any. (re @u99of9: Do you all see "unable to run tests" at Z23746? Any ideas why?) [09:18:19] T391329 (re @u99of9: Do you all see "unable to run tests" at Z23746? Any ideas why?) [09:21:30] Yeah… weird… Z6821 succeeds in Try this… but fails when trying to add a test. (re @u99of9: T391329) [09:35:35] I’ve added Z23748. It fails, of course, but I think its failure counts as a Production Error. @staff may feel free to disagree but I’ve changed the subtype. [09:47:06] It looks like Z6822 is similarly afflicted, but Z6825 is not Z23749 [11:16:09] Hi all, just FYI the recording of yesterday's Volunteers' Corner is now available on Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Abstract_Wikipedia_Volunteer_Corner_2025-04.webm Enjoy! [20:14:43] It’s in Wikidata English! As luck would have it, if we could get there conceptually, the result I would expect is “grey is a colour”. You can try Q1075 and Q42519 in Z22664 and you will get “a grey colour” for Z1002. (re @Nicolas: @vrandecic is the function you created tonight in British or American English? [20:14:43] see the test "grey is a colour" (or should it be ...) [22:17:02] It all looked so much easier this morning, so when Z23740 doesn't time out, it gives : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/117afc11/file_69831.jpg [22:17:53] Shouldn't colour be a preferred statement? (re @u99of9: It all looked so much easier this morning, so when Z23740 doesn't time out, it now gives) [22:18:41] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6d6f25b3/file_69832.jpg [22:19:59] I don't fancy going up the subclass tree. For now I'm just trying to get labels and P31s working. (re @u99of9: ) [22:20:41] That sucks (re @u99of9: ) [22:21:08] Perhaps we could propose a "direct instance of" [22:25:35] How far up would you go? Ultimately everything is an entity... (re @Feeglgeef: Perhaps we could propose a "direct instance of") [22:25:51] Like common English nouns (re @u99of9: How far up would you go? Ultimately everything is an entity...) [22:26:04] A child under 10 reliably knows what it is or something [22:26:15] Good plan. I’m not sure how we’ll know when to prefer a lexeme to a label. It may be more a question of “lexeme for label”, to allow for inflections. And then there are the various naming properties… (re @u99of9: I don't fancy going up the subclass tree. For now I'm just trying to get labels and P31s working. Maybe preferred P31s can come ...) [23:01:11] Did you get a chance to watch @mahir256's presentation at the natural language group? There are so many options for fallbacks! We have a lot of work ahead. (re @Al: Good plan. I’m not sure how we’ll know when to prefer a lexeme to a label. It may be more a question of “lexeme for label”, to a...) [23:10:34] I looked through the slides 👍 (re @u99of9: Did you get a chance to watch @mahir256's presentation at the natural language group? There are so many options for fallbacks! W...)