[00:13:30] New record? It's great with all these new functions to play with! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/c84cbfb4/file_75958.jpg [01:15:35] Not a record, but nice strong activity. (re @Npriskorn: New record? It's great with all these new functions to play with!) [04:14:03] It seems to primarily be an issue for complex compositions : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/70b0e451/file_75960.jpg [08:26:11] The team is aware of it and they're working on it (re @u99of9: It seems to primarily be an issue for complex compositions) [08:26:28] As soon as they have more info, I'll (or they'll) share it [08:27:22] BTW, heads up that for the next couple of days I might be slower to respond, I have personal matters to attend, but I'll keep an eye on conversations [08:27:42] If there is something urgent, ping me anyway, I'll see what I can do [08:39:19] Hi y'all, [08:39:19] Someone on fr.wikt just asked me if Wikifunctions could be called from a gadget in Javascript. It is possible? [08:39:21] and the question is double: is it possible now? is it planned be possible in the future? [08:40:05] IIRC it's callable but not sure if it's possible through JS, I'll ask [10:08:34] https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikifunctions_API/Reference/Run_Function#JavaScript maybe this is the answer? (re @NicolasVIGNERON: Hi y'all, [10:08:35] Someone on fr.wikt just asked me if Wikifunctions could be called from a gadget in Javascript. It is possible? [10:08:36] and the...) [10:42:13] she saying that it kind of works but she's got a Z559 error « User not permitted to run Function » (she tried the simple Z10000) (re @Sannita: https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikifunctions_API/Reference/Run_Function#JavaScript maybe this is the answer?) [10:47:57] Uhm [10:57:15] so we can avoid it by keeping things simple and stupid? (re @u99of9: It seems to primarily be an issue for complex compositions) [11:01:23] Al should we focus on fragments rather than sentences for all the NLG functions we are creating now? [11:01:25] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/4e6a7b95/file_75971.jpg [11:02:16] could it be that logging in is required? (re @NicolasVIGNERON: she saying that it kind of works but she's got a Z559 error « User not permitted to run Function » (she tried the simple Z10000)) [11:02:28] no hurry, she's just wondering about possibilities right now, [11:02:30] but I think it's important for the future ; I don't think I've seen talks about integration of Wikifunctions in gadget, there is some high potential there (re @Sannita: Uhm) [11:02:48] Yeah, I think so too (re @NicolasVIGNERON: no hurry, she's just wondering about possibilities right now, [11:02:48] but I think it's important for the future ; I don't think I've see...) [11:03:04] maybe, but logging in Wiktionary, in Wikifunctions, in the API? (re @Npriskorn: could it be that logging in first is required?) [11:03:48] in the API and providing a token? (re @NicolasVIGNERON: maybe, but logging in Wiktionary, in Wikifunctions, in the API?) [11:04:11] I'm just guessing, we need to look at the code or talk to the devs [11:40:29] I was sure I’d suggested it before, but I haven’t been able to locate any discussion. Feel free to add your thoughts at [[Wikifunctions talk:Abstract Wikipedia/2025 fragment experiments]]. I think we need to be able to return a proper sentence from an embedded function call, which currently implies a thin wrapper for each fragment that can stand alone as a sentence. But a [11:40:29] “ [11:40:30] sentence-initial” variant might also be required in some contexts… otherwise you end up with “sentence-initial” and “sentence-final” flags, or (better) an enumeration from which to select an option. 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[14:42:26] https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/it/Z30267?call=%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z7%22%2C%22Z7K1%22%3A%22Z30267%22%2C%22Z30267K1%22%3A%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z7%22%2C%22Z7K1%22%3A%22Z28316%22%2C%22Z28316K1%22%3A%22Z19084%22%2C%22Z28316K2%22%3A%5B%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z7%22%2C%22Z7K1%22%3A%22Z881%22%2C%22Z881K1%22%3A%22Z1%22%7D%2C%5B%22Z1%22%2C%22casd%22%2C%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z [14:42:27] 6091%22%2C%22Z6091K1%22%3A%22Q3947%22%7D%5D%2C%5B%22Z1%22%2C%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z6091%22%2C%22Z6091K1%22%3A%22Q3914%22%7D%2C%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%22Z40%22%2C%22Z40K1%22%3A%22Z42%22%7D%5D%5D%2C%22Z28316K3%22%3A%22Z6091%22%7D%2C%22Z30267K2%22%3A%22Z1002%22%7D [15:41:19] What is not happening is the Argument reference being de-referenced. I saw something similar yesterday but I haven’t filed a ticket yet. See the test of https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z30415 for an example… but that works in Try this implementation 🤷‍♂️ (re @dvd_ccc27919: What is happening here? https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/it/Z30267?call=%7B%22Z1K1%22%3A%2 [15:41:19] [15:41:19] 2Z7%22%2C%22Z7K1%22%3A%22Z30267%22%2...) [16:29:07] David the tests on Z811 are all disconnected and I'm not allowed to connect them 😅 [16:32:12] Would someone take a look at the failing tests on Z30458? I don't understand why it gets a list when I use Z811 in the comp. [17:26:56] Now this problem is magically solved (re @Npriskorn: Would someone take a look at the failing tests on Z30458? I don't understand why it gets a list when I use Z811 in the comp to o...) [17:27:09] I think it's a caching issue [17:28:05] By the way, Z30469 is the proof that it's better not to choose the first option in NLG functions [19:50:04] @vrandecic (re @Ameisenigel: Am I wrong or is Z26955 the same as Z26039?) [21:28:42] So we perhaps need to find a better way to select a suitable lexeme based on an item. (re @dvd_ccc27919: By the way, Z30469 is the proof that it's better not to choose the first option in NLG functions) [21:30:15] if the goal of the NLG functions is to select the lexeme with the widest use and which most people understand then we might need to find a way to add data about how common a given form is kn a language? [21:33:55] we need new helpers [21:33:57] first get all lexemes that link to the item [21:33:58] then make typed pairs with the lexeme reference and calculated distance [21:34:00] then sort according to distance [21:34:01] then pick the lowest distance one [21:36:04] or we could pick based on lowest LID 🤪 [21:58:47] oh, I just found Z10393. This community is incredible. Feels like standing on the shoulders of giants 🤩 [21:58:48] It reminds me about LEGO building in my youth, but with the twist that you can create your own basic building blocks if needed. ✨ [22:45:59] I already tried to implement Z27327, based mainly by looking at properties like P6191, but it certainly can be improved (re @Npriskorn: So we perhaps need to find a better way to select a suitable lexeme based on an item.)