[00:01:02] Why is Z26043 for functions that return String, but Z26096 is for functions that return Monolingual text? Should it both be String? [00:03:39] In some languages (such as my native language, Tagalog), article-less and article-ful instantianting sentences are the exact same. I created a single instantiating sentence function that returns a String, but I don't really want to create a wrapper that returns Monolingual text. [00:05:32] The labels may be a little misleading. Would you say the same sentence to mean "x is an instance of Y" and "X is a type/subclass of Y"? (re @Earldridge Jazzed: In some languages (such as my native language, Tagalog), article-less and article-ful instantianting sentences are the exact sam...) [00:08:15] This is a historical artefact from when we were learning which worked better. Current practice is normally for functions in configs to return monolingual text. But it may be that HTML is a better return type than both... (Or a type we haven't even created yet.) (re @Earldridge Jazzed: Why is Z26043 for functions that return String, but Z26096 is for functions that [00:08:15] return Monoling [00:08:15] ual text? Shouldn't it both be S...) [00:10:24] Yes. In Tagalog, its "Ang X ay isang Y" for both instances and types/subclasses. (re @u99of9: The labels may be a little misleading. Would you say the same sentence to mean "x is an instance of Y" and "X is a type/subclass...) [00:10:51] But yes, at the moment we often need to write wrappers like this. [00:13:09] The good news is that you get two for the price of one (plus a wrapper). [07:50:12] We recorded only the what's new part, and then had an unstructured discussion about what can be done better with AW (re @u99of9: What were the main discussion items? I can't find the usual telltale editing pattern.) [08:08:14] I just spotted an image to be gen AI because it didn't have Z30349 πŸ˜† [08:49:58] 6308 [08:50:36] Welcome McGrath [11:07:56] Earlier today, there was a mass reverting of edits which inserted default functions as the Hindi option within configs, which in turn artifically inflated the number of articles that can be rendered in Hindi according to Abstract Data Toolforge. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1c9938e2/file_83672.jpg [11:41:12] I think I need help debugging an issue. Z41594 fails with an error that refers to Z39214K2, but the composition Z38444 only does two things: First it should choose the default function for Swedish, just like Z41596 (which works). Second it should use apply that function to the same arguments, just like Z41595 (which works). I don't see how it would ever encounter [11:41:12] Z39214K2 anyway... [11:46:23] Yes, I've discussed this with BlueSkyWalker here https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/User_talk:BlueSkyWalker . I think this is in hand. (re @Earldridge Jazzed: Earlier today, there was a mass reverting of edits which inserted default functions as the Hindi option within configs, which in...) [12:33:25] Maybe it's not very important. I guess the issue is somewhere deep inside Z41161, which seems overcomplicated for a default function. Perhaps I'll just try to replace it with something simpler? (re @u99of9: I think I need help debugging an issue. Z41594 fails with an error that refers to Z39214K2, but the composition Z38444 only does...) [13:18:43] Yes, I think this is working, so although there may have been a subtle bug, I don't think it matters much. (re @u99of9: Maybe it's not very important. I guess the issue is somewhere deep inside Z41161, which seems overcomplicated for a default func...) [13:20:29] (re @u99of9: Sounds interesting. Be on the lookout for QID dropdown picker errors. I've sometimes come back to an item I picked and it has be...) [13:29:36] T437287 (re @u99of9: AHA! I can finally prove it was not my fault that I pick Wikidata items faster than the system can keep up:) [13:42:01] And finally I can show you the new CTA in Swedish: : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/72125c6d/file_83673.jpg [14:11:09] I put a πŸŽ‰ for it, because it's now even more clear that isn't a lexeme missing but something else that needs to be done. (re @u99of9: And finally I can show you the new CTA in Swedish:) [14:15:11] Yes, it looks like Z39217 would work for only a small number of languages for which a Z60K1: QID mapping is provided. (re @u99of9: Maybe it's not very important. I guess the issue is somewhere deep inside Z41161, which seems overcomplicated for a default func...) [14:16:48] Ah, but sometimes it is! L1682834 was missing, so I made it. (re @Jan_ainali: I put a πŸŽ‰ for it, because it's now even more clear that isn't a lexeme missing but something else that needs to be done.) [14:17:35] So double up: πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰ [14:35:37] Is it our policy to eliminate English from default functions? Perhaps in this case Q17198982 P138 Q49796016 with labels in the requested language or fallbacks, or following Z32878 (which doesn’t work for properties). With a few such functions, we should generally be able to avoid a specific default for each configuration. (re @u99of9: And finally I can show you the new [14:35:37] CTA in Swedish:) [14:46:37] good morning.