[01:38:09] At Z43159 I'm getting Z566 when I try to get the QIDs to link [01:40:16] Disallowed callback to the orchestrator (call: "{"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z6820K1" {"K1" {"K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z6091"} "Z6091K1" {"Z1K1" "Z6" "Z6K1" "Q8027"}} "K2" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"} "Z881K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z6091"}}} "Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" [01:40:16] "Z881"},"Z8 [01:40:17] 81K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z6091"}}} "K2" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"} "Z881K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"} "Z881K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z6091"}}}} "Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"} "Z881K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1"{"Z1K1": [01:40:17] "Z9","Z9K1 [01:40:18] ":"Z881"},"Z881K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z6091"}}}},"Z6820K2":{"K1":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z6030"},"Z6030K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z6033"}},"K2":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z7"},"Z7K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z881"},"Z881K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z6030"}}},"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z7"},"Z7K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z881"},"Z881K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1": [01:40:18] "Z6030"}}}, [01:40:20] "Z6820K3" {"K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z60"} "Z60K1" {"Z1K1" "Z6" "Z6K1" "en"}} "K2" {"K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z60"} "Z60K1" {"Z1K1" "Z6" "Z6K1" "mul"}} "K2" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"} "Z881K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z60"}}} "Z1K1" {"Z1K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z7"} "Z7K1" {"Z1K1" "Z9" "Z9K1" "Z881"}"Z881K1" [01:40:20] :{"Z1K1":" [01:40:21] Z9","Z9K1":"Z60"}}},"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z7"},"Z7K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z881"},"Z881K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z60"}}},"Z6820K4":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z7"},"Z7K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z881"},"Z881K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z1"}}},"Z7K1":{"Z1K1":"Z9","Z9K1":"Z6820"}}") (re @u99of9: At Z43159 I'm getting Z566 when I try to get the QIDs to [01:40:21] link. I wasn't [01:40:23] trying to do any kind of callback.) [02:06:16] Nevermind, I found it. My issue. (but still nothing to do with callback as far as I know.) (re @u99of9: At Z43159 I'm getting Z566 when I try to get the QIDs to link. I wasn't trying to do any kind of callback.) [07:09:07] one could think this chat is meant for machines ;) [07:10:09] Ha! Sorry, I posted the whole error message. At least the linkbot looks up all the English labels, so it may have even helped. (re @wmtelegram_bot: one could think this chat is meant for machines ;)) [07:17:38] no need to be sorry, just found it to be funny. [07:41:34] also, happy about every activity happening. :) [07:48:33] The latest episode of Between the brackets had @mahir256 as guest and there was a lot of talk about language generation, Wikifunctions and Abstract Wikipedia. The long format allowed for needed nuances and I really enjoyed the episode. Thanks Mahir! https://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-215-mahir-morshed [07:49:09] thank you :) [07:49:29] can't have a look right now, but sounds like something for my queue :) [07:57:23] anyone knows any example of adjectives not being directly placed with their nouns? [07:57:46] (ignorning cases that use a form of to be) [07:59:42] The non-robotic reason for Z43146 is of course to make lists like this. They don't even require good NLG, so I guess it will be one of the easiest to configure. [07:59:58] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6afccc54/file_84109.jpg [08:01:46] But don't do other languages just yet. I haven't dealt with missing values yet, so it would be good to do that before it's copied. (re @u99of9: The non-robotic reason for Z43146 is of course to make lists like this. They don't even require good NLG, so I guess it will be ...) [08:05:06] "the sea turned glassy" (re @wmtelegram_bot: anyone knows any example of adjectives not being directly placed with their nouns?) [08:06:45] But maybe that's another version of "became"="to be"? (re @u99of9: "the sea turned glassy") [08:06:49] good example, but, is 'turned' not a form of to be? [08:07:21] yes, my thougt, maybe it's just a fancy way to speak about the future state. [08:07:35] or paste change [08:07:38] not fure. [08:07:47] it's early. [08:07:59] The tree grew tall [08:08:58] thank you. [08:09:12] what I take from that is, that there are at least two forms. [08:10:19] Of course other languages probably also have rich examples. [08:11:03] one where the verb connects them, and one where it is directly connected. I would argue that in that example tall is part of the predicate -> providing a specific shape of predicates as well. [08:11:31] u99of9: still very helpful to me already! [08:13:29] "grow" is also a becoming (to be) word. Maybe there's a whole category of verbs that can act like that, but I think most can't. [08:15:18] yes. but the as I would need to handle the to-be case anyway, if there is a category of them: just generalise that slightly and be happy that one 'template' works for more than one word! [08:40:14] Is your template language like this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Template_Language_for_Wikifunctions [08:51:32] in my case template means an abstract template. as in 'anything that has this shape or form', not as in specific bits and bytes. [12:59:10] Al any chance you want to make Z43261 work for me? It seems related to one you've worked on before: Z33105 (which I tried but failed to compose). But I guess by giving a ZID reference it's more stable than passing actual Types? [13:02:20] This is related to dealing with missing information, e.g. at Z43257. So I wouldn't mind if a similar function was just filtering voids (or similar) out of a list. (re @u99of9: Al any chance you want to make Z43261 work for me? It seems related to one you've worked on before: Z33105 (which I tried but fa...) [13:04:28] Now with next-level article attached. https://abstract.wikipedia.org/view/en/Q115518310 (re @u99of9: Next-level infobox!) [13:25:12] I may get to look at it this evening, but yes, Z96 may well be worth exploiting in this context 🤔 (re @u99of9: Al any chance you want to make Z43261 work for me? It seems related to one you've worked on before: Z33105 (which I tried but fa...) [13:36:45] Yes… it ends up not being mobile friendly, but perhaps that depends on the smartphone! (re @u99of9: Now with next-level article attached. https://abstract.wikipedia.org/view/en/Q115518310) [13:46:54] Actually, it looks like there was a quick fix (which may be sub-optimal). Applied and connected. (re @u99of9: Al any chance you want to make Z43261 work for me? It seems related to one you've worked on before: Z33105 (which I tried but fa...) [13:56:04] Thanks, appreciated. Maybe I should have anticipated that I need something to catch the errors before they get to this stage. This didn't solve it: https://www.wikifunctions.org/w/index.php?title=Z43159&diff=318527&oldid=318209 (re @Al: Actually, it looks like there was a quick fix (which may be sub-optimal). Applied and connected.) [13:57:46] Should I be adding the possibly failing item with a catching append? Or some other strategy? [14:01:59] I’m not entirely sure of the context. Is it statements with and without qualifiers? (re @u99of9: Should I be adding the possibly failing item with a catching append? Or some other strategy?) [14:29:55] Yes. The failing step is when I ask for link injection of the qualifier (along with another QID on a list) when the qualifier doesn't exist, so that list element (red circle) fails. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/aa9e6336/file_84114.jpg [14:46:03] Actually, I found a way around it this time. I'll ask again if I get stuck some other time. (re @u99of9: Yes. The failing step is when I ask for link injection of the qualifier (along with another QID on a list) when the qualifier do...) [14:47:20] I’ll think about it anyway 😎 (re @u99of9: Actually, I found a way around it this time. I'll ask again if I get stuck some other time.) [15:20:22] It sounds like someone should add the mayor to the AW on Paris! [[Wikifunctions:Status_updates/2026-09-25]] [23:52:48] Just 3 functions away from Wikifunctions having 6000 functions