[06:58:44] hm, some verbs manipulate the subject (I enter) and some the object (I place $O); and the relation between an verb and an adjective in terms or time/causality seems to be generally speaking undefined. [11:28:16] I don’t know about “undefined”, but I wouldn’t restrict it to adjectives. In English, it is far more commonly found with prepositions and prepositional phrases. Consider, for example: _she danced him off the floor_; _she danced herself silly; she wore herself out._ (re @wmtelegram_bot: hm, some verbs manipulate the subject (I enter) and some the object (I plac [11:28:16] [11:28:16] e $O); and the relation between an verb a...) [11:31:23] reading my sentence again I find that I not write what I wanted to communicate. maybe I should focus more. What I meant to say was: the relation between a verb and the corresponding adjective (e.g. to sleep <-> sleepy, to mix <-> mixed). [11:32:42] when you are sleepy, you sleep (adjective (state) first, then verb (action) on the timeline), when you mix you get something mixed (verb (action) first, then adjective (state)) [11:35:43] in that example the -ed might be a hint, but I would not count on that to be always correct, specifically not if you consider all languages. [14:00:58] I wouldn’t count on anything for all languages! Although English participles can function as adjectives, familiarity can dull their relationship to the verb: _tired_ can feel simply adjectival without _out_, whereas _tiring_ retains a more obvious connection with _tire_. In future or counterfactual contexts, the latent event structure can become more salient. [14:00:58] (un)broken • (un)breakable • as-yet-unbroken / yet-to-be-broken / for breaking • about to break • breaking / being broken • broken [14:01:00] (un)mixed • (un)mixable / (im)miscible • as-yet-unmixed / yet-to-be-mixed / for mixing • about to mix • mixing / being mixed • mixed (re @wmtelegram_bot: in that example the -ed might be a hint, but I would not count on that to be always correct, specifically not if you...)