[01:40:21] <MacFan4000>	 @agentisai I get an exception when I go to mark a page for translation
[01:40:22] <MacFan4000>	 [3686460b798dc65471020c6b] 2023-10-04 01:39:13: Fatal exception of type "Error"
[01:42:02] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> `Error: Call to undefined method MediaWiki\Title\Title::newFromPageIdentity()`
[01:42:12] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> probably some upstream issue once again
[01:48:04] <MacFan4000>	 @agentisai is that error coming from Translate or from another extension? (stack trace would show)
[01:48:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> yes, Translate is at fault
[07:49:21] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Can I ask? If can pull and fork, then other than you, can I done the cert myself in the default way?
[09:39:03] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [1/5] ```
[09:39:03] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [2/5] MediaWiki internal error.
[09:39:04] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [3/5] Original exception: [295ecf4b67a33473c065d716] 2023-10-04 09:38:39: Fatal exception of type "Error"
[09:39:04] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [4/5] Exception caught inside exception handler.
[09:39:04] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [5/5] ```
[09:39:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to agentisai> might be it.
[14:57:18] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> [1/2] Quick query, I have just noticed that some interface pages are “view source” only such as Vector.css and Citizen.css, yet others such as sidebar and gadgets etc. I can still edit. Have there been issues with this elsewhere? I haven’t made any changes to ManageWiki except turn on VisualEditor. In fact I have made no changes to permissions at all. I am admin and bureaucrat. Does 
[14:57:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> [2/2] anyone know why this has changed suddenly?
[15:04:48] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> And changing the permissions to allow editsitecss doesn’t work: “can’t currently handle this request. HTTP ERROR 500”
[15:05:07] <MacFan4000>	 @agentisai ^^
[15:31:02] <MacFan4000>	 hmm, suddenly I'm getting 404s on meta
[15:31:42] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <cocopuff2018> metga is down @agentisai
[15:36:36] <MacFan4000>	 appears to me all wikis WT and WF that are down
[15:36:52] <MacFan4000>	 appears to be*
[15:51:30] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> fixed
[15:54:34] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to agentisai> Oh and have any changes that 113 can be merge?
[15:54:55] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> It just a setting changes and should not be a problem
[16:03:06] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> New exception code: `347a42d3879815a9ca03dcd7`
[16:03:34] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Don't say it was the Translation again-
[16:09:42] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> I still don’t have permission to edit Citizen.css. On that page and Vector.css and Common.css I appear logged out
[16:24:28] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> That would be why, have you tried cleaning clicking the log in button?
[16:24:41] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> Those pages are protected by default
[16:29:42] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> Or I guess to be more specific, one must have editsitecss permissions attached to their user to edit those pages.  Logged out users will not have those right, those are usually reserved for the interface-admin role.  Do you appear logged out elsewhere as well or just those three pages?
[16:39:07] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1, replying to notaracham> I’m only logged out on those pages. I go to another page and I’m logged in. I only edited Citizen.css a few days ago and I need to make a couple more changed, but something has changed with the settings and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t me.
[16:40:37] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> Hmmm, checking your site permission structure and assigned roles you should be fine...  Please try logging out, clearing cache, then logging back in and see if it persists.  @Agent, any thoughts?
[16:42:13] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> I also checked my permissions and editsitecss was mysteriously not assigned to admin permissions. I couldn’t change it as it wouldn’t let me
[16:42:35] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> But I am on a work computer….
[16:42:37] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> It is to interface-admin, which  you also have assigned
[16:44:38] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> some interface rights require 2FA to use in order to ensure that a hacked account isn't able to grab passwords, etc
[16:44:47] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> but I think css shouldn't
[16:45:28] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> yeah, CSS shouldn't need it
[16:46:29] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1, replying to notaracham> Yes, on interface-admin they are ticked.
[16:46:47] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> check your user preferences to see if it says anything
[16:49:06] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> I’m just wondering why I could edit those pages a couple of days ago and now I can’t. I haven’t changed anything since then. It is only me using the wiki atm as I am currently building it up bit by bit. And this is a first.
[16:49:40] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> How can I actually make the "tagline" from the logomark shown in the wiki?
[16:49:42] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1, replying to agentisai> For some reason in my preferences it says interface-admin is disabled.
[16:51:24] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yep, so it's enforcing 2FA requirements now, not sure why it wasn't before...
[16:51:59] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> When was 2FA a requirement?
[16:52:11] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> you should be able to bypass this by adding editsitecss to the sysop group or something
[16:52:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> but let me fix ManageWiki first
[16:52:39] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> some patch I applied to fix an upstream bug seems to have fallen off
[16:53:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> Ok, thanks. I’ll check in a bit and let you know if I still can’t access those pages
[16:57:27] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> now fixed
[17:03:58] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [1/2] my P4M (pull for myself) settings have finally worked!
[17:03:58] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [2/2] It's nice to do something with it without having to create a Phorge task for this-
[17:09:27] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1, replying to agentisai> I’m guessing I still need to do the 2FA.
[17:10:00] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> you should be able to edit css now
[17:11:57] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> Not yet
[17:22:30] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to songngu.xyz> I reverted the latest update to Translate so this should work now, hopefully
[17:22:55] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> looks good now!
[17:25:38] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> And it now should change to Vietnamese in case of interface language is `vi`
[17:26:19] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> oh nice
[17:26:23] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I might create a template if this ever happen again, with someone else
[17:48:09] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1, replying to agentisai> I’ve cleared cache and logged out and back in again. Is there anything else I need to do my end? I don’t fancy having to use 2FA every time I edit css pages.
[17:49:38] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to borderman.ww1> you added `editsitecss` to `sysop` and it still doesn't work?
[17:50:05] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <agentisai> 2fa is just for when you login by the way, it's not triggered when you edit
[17:56:04] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <borderman.ww1> Sorry, I didn’t realise I had to do that again. It’s working now, thanks. I had a  HTTP error 500 before. I thought I was going to have interface-admin permissions added.