[02:44:39] Why is the server name changed [02:52:27] See announcements [06:15:07] Sounds good. What would the criteria be to qualify for it being featured? Size, content quality etc? How long would they be in the spotlight for? [10:40:48] Sounds like Vietnamese's Community Central to me [10:43:52] Though, I might go with a<:StrongestOpposeMH:945088333204320348>Strong Oppose [10:45:00] Unless it can be maintained gradually, I don't think it was the best way. [10:47:27] down the road, much further [10:47:34] lol [14:04:29] @notaracham can i join the new server if im not wwa [14:04:34] A customer [14:12:20] you still can, yes [14:13:46] limited permission if non-verified tho- [15:14:12] [1/2] I would prefer you didn't. [15:14:13] [2/2] It's intended for customers and prospective customers to get support, not as a general community server or a place for off-topic discussion. [15:14:44] To my understanding you don't have wikis on either platform or an intent to create one on either, yes? [19:01:41] I like the idea. I always felt community was the element lacking from Miraheze that was present on Fandom, so it’ll be nice to correct that with WT [19:47:27] UNo [19:47:46] No [19:50:34] I have no plans on makimg a wiki [19:50:54] Making [19:51:33] @notaracham [19:52:52] Alright, not too much over there that will be relevant to you then. [22:52:21] Thinking about moving My Imaginary Friends Wiki from Miraheze to WikiTide [23:12:54] sudden wiki not found [23:13:56] suddenly got this while browsing [23:14:21] Me too, right in the middle of saving a page [23:14:50] @Agent Are you working on something? [23:15:10] @agentisai [23:17:58] looking at #wiki-feed it seems every wiki is down except avid specifically [23:19:50] even wikitide meta [23:20:52] Avid is on its own server iirc [23:23:01] Just got to wait it out until Agent can look into it. Timing sucks, but I can carry on writing in Apple Notes for now. Not seen Agent around since last night [23:23:11] hmm, up for me [23:23:15] try again perhaps? [23:24:30] yes, back up [23:24:36] Yeah mine are back up too [23:25:00] I think logrotate got stuck on a huge log [23:25:11] will have to see how to stop mw* from taking up for much space [23:25:25] giving it more space is an obvious answer but just a stopgap until it eats all of that up [23:26:43] Just a curiosity but how much do all these resources cost? [23:27:48] so one AWS, everything combined came out to around $350, including S3, ES, and other backend services used to support both services [23:28:01] WikiTide primarily gobbles up a lot of resources [23:28:19] is that per month? [23:28:22] yes [23:28:37] ok, that's quite a bit at this early stage [23:29:11] we have a lot of massive wikis which may not be seen at first glance [23:29:29] WikiTide averages around 2 millions requests per day [23:30:02] and WikiForge (with AVID) around 3 million [23:30:19] that's more than I thought [23:30:56] good for WT and WF but the costs could spiral out of control to keep things running smoothly [23:31:39] the finance page on WT needs updating, unless no one has made any donations yet [23:31:50] donations started very recently [23:31:59] before a few weeks ago, we receieved next to nothing [23:32:21] just some generous grants from @notaracham for example but that's about it [23:32:54] are donations only through Git at the moment? [23:34:51] I think the finances page definitely needs to be kept up to date just we can see how much things are costing, this makes it more visible for everyone to realise the financial reality of running a wikifarm....of course many of us know that, but newbies may not be so aware [23:36:02] so at the moment, WikiForge is baring the blunt of all costs because we haven't reached the point where we can separate our infrastructures just yet and we certainly don't want to use donations to finance our for-profit side [23:36:05] Yeah a cost counter alongside a donated amount would be quite effective I think [23:36:56] Maybe target goals too. Like "we can do x with x amount of money." [23:37:28] ^ makes sense [23:39:52] Then WF is taking quite a hit at the moment by the sounds of it [23:51:44] quite a big hit, yes [23:52:24] but our goal is for WT to be able to be self-sufficient to accomodate growth and not relying on a for-profit venture indefinitely [23:52:37] We also have a Ko-fi and PayPal [23:56:41] Maybe the costing could have more visibility WT, how much everything costs to run on a per month basis. This education, I think, would open peoples eye to the reality. I, for one, had no idea it was already costing $350 a month already. What you say makes total sense though [23:57:23] where is the info for Ko-fi and PayPal? [23:57:42] Yeah it's not exactly something people unaware of the industry would be aware of. I only know how much it was costing due to conversations with Cosmic. [23:58:45] So, we could assume, that most people of WT would be unaware of the costs [23:59:01] This is the case with most donation run platforms yes [23:59:46] It's a delicate balance of requiring the money to run everything smoothly, but at the same time not actually asking for it!