[01:13:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> hi everyone, clueless n00b here
[01:15:07] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> I'm new to WikiTide, and I'm having trouble getting Visual Editor to work
[01:20:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> Went to extensions, checked the box, saved it, then hit "Edit" ... and nothing happens
[01:20:20] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> So I'm obviously missing something simple
[01:44:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> It can take a little bit to propagate through after enabling it, but you can also double check it's enabled by going to manage namespaces and making sure it's turned on for where you're trying to use it.
[01:45:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Otherwise, give it an hour or so, it's a very touchy extension and takes a bit to start working.
[01:46:18] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> If it's still not working after that, disabling then re enabling will sometimes solve its quirks
[01:46:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> ahh
[01:46:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> lessee
[01:47:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> oh, THERE it goes
[01:47:17] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> LOL
[01:48:18] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> another question:  How do I disable the "What's your reason for this change" box?  Sometimes I just want to make quick changes to test stuff out, and I don't need to track it all
[01:48:36] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> at some point, I'll probably want to track all my changes, but for now I just want to play around
[02:07:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] Under preferences > editing, I think this is the one you're looking for:
[02:07:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] `Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary)`
[02:15:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> hmm, nope, that ain't it
[02:16:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> The box is labeled, "Reason for this change"
[02:17:04] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> I'll keep looking around, it's kind of a minor ask
[02:18:42] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> Last question for now:  I'm looking for an editor that is:  1) Easy to use; 2) Easy to create graphic items, like text blocks; 3) Easy to create AJAXPolls; 4) Doesn't require HTML coding.  Does such an editor exist?  There's a bunch of web-based editors, but I'm not into spending hours playing around with various ones trying to find what I want
[02:18:58] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> By the way -- thanks for all your help, much appreciated
[02:21:58] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Ah, that's the managewiki change record, I don't know of a way to bypass that one
[02:39:47] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I might suggest don't bypass that.
[02:40:42] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I just use a . in it half the time on own wikis, so I don't really see the piunt of always requirng it it, but it is good to use
[02:41:15] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Asdf is my personal standby for minor changes I'll absolutely be reverting
[02:43:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] Regarding editors, this is an area in which the MediaWiki landscape is unfortunately sparse.
[02:43:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] While we have extensions that allow for the final product you're looking for, like AJAXPolls, a single seamless interface to do your edits is annoyingly elusive
[02:46:02] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> hences that was a whole ordeals
[02:46:08] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> and uh, regarding the vacants, are there a status update yet?
[02:53:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> ?
[02:53:25] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Oh, are you talking about opening up elections for volunteer roles?
[03:16:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to notaracham> [1/2] maybe-
[03:16:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to notaracham> [2/2] and also something with the SREs personally
[03:18:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> Yeah, I started putting individual letters
[03:18:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> started with "a"
[03:18:44] <WikiTideRelay>	 <pianoman_04591> I guess it's fine -- at a previous job, we had to annotate every single change we made to the SVN repo, and it got tedious, but it came in handy whenever something broke down
[06:06:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> DB maintenance might occur at <t:1700676000>
[10:18:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [1/5] ```
[10:18:49] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [2/5] There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form.
[10:18:49] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [3/5] ```
[10:18:49] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [4/5] when logging in
[10:18:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [5/5] every single time
[13:28:51] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Any best ways to create a countdown clock? (Other than CountDownClock extension sinces it only allows one to show per page)
[13:38:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to songngu.xyz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Countdown ?
[13:40:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> it would probably need some tweaking for your uses though.
[13:41:36] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to platyellow> I prefer to have real time countdown supported
[14:34:26] <WikiTideRelay>	 <trigjegman, replying to ap.png> I'd bring this up in #support
[14:59:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png, replying to songngu.xyz> custom js
[14:59:20] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png, replying to trigjegman> it's probably a client issue
[15:05:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to ap.png> Something like that, yes
[16:28:19] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Images are dying again lol
[16:38:29] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [1/51] Try these then:
[16:38:29] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [2/51] Template:
[16:38:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [3/51] ```html
[16:38:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [4/51] <includeonly>
[16:38:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [5/51] <div class="timer-wrapper">
[16:38:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [6/51]     <div class="timestamp" style="display: none;">{{{1|1970-01-01T00:00:00+00:00}}}/div
[16:38:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [7/51]     <div class="timer-body">/div
[16:38:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [8/51] /div
[16:38:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [9/51] /includeonly
[16:38:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [10/51] ```
[16:38:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [11/51] Common.js:
[16:38:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [12/51] ```js
[16:38:33] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [13/51] function divMod(a, b) {
[16:38:33] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [14/51]     return [Math.round(a / b), a % b];
[16:38:45] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [37/51]         if (now > endTime) {
[16:38:45] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [38/51]             timerBody.textContent = "Expired Timer";
[16:38:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [39/51]             clearInterval(interval);
[16:38:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [40/51]             return;
[16:38:47] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [41/51]         }
[16:38:47] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [42/51]         var deltaSeconds = (endTime - now) / 1000;
[16:38:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [43/51]         timerBody.textContent = parseDelta(deltaSeconds);
[16:38:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [44/51]     }
[16:38:49] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [45/51]     var interval = setInterval(timerfunction, 1000);
[16:38:49] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [46/51] }
[16:38:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [47/51] var timers = document.getElementsByClassName("timer-wrapper");
[16:38:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [48/51] for (var i = 0; i < timers.length; i++) {
[16:38:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [49/51]     createTimer(timers[i]);
[16:38:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [50/51] }
[16:38:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky, replying to songngu.xyz> [51/51] ```
[18:51:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <disgustedorite> getting an internal server error when previewing pages. When this happens I lose all my edits.
[18:55:05] <WikiTideRelay>	 <disgustedorite> it seems to happen if the page is above a certain size
[18:55:23] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> We're not exactly sure why. We're all receiving those errors sporadically
[19:34:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <piccadilly19> can my account please be unlocked if I promise to not edit Meta (since I don't have anything really useful to add there) and behave elsewhere?
[19:34:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <piccadilly19> i'd like to work on my monopoly wiki.
[19:58:27] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> You can feel free to make your case to the stewards@wikitide.org alias, but a gentle warning that chances of a successful appeal given history (and recent ban evasion) are essentially zero.