[00:01:31] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I am unable to fix right this very moment. Apologies.
[00:02:33] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Messing with DB is scary I want to make absolutely sure my query won't cause issues.
[00:04:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> And I am going to dinner soon. @agentisai might be able to before I get back, if not I will try when I get back.
[00:06:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> @lovesnextmissessandra @disgustedorite can you try logging in again?
[00:07:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I hate SQL, running mass delete queries is very scary lol
[00:07:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> backups are life lol
[00:07:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Don’t want my hard work deleted
[00:07:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I had it deleted from FANDOM
[00:08:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Actually FANDOM deleted all of my hard work
[00:08:59] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I’m logged in Thank you @agentisai
[00:10:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> no problem
[01:46:45] <WikiTideRelay>	 <disgustedorite> logging in works for me now too
[01:47:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <disgustedorite> now to investigate the image problems
[02:16:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong, replying to lovesnextmissessandra> 🫂 Same. But in my case, I asked them to. 🤣
[02:36:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I don’t like FANDOM anymore
[02:38:57] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> FANDOM Staff member named Kimberton deleted all of my hard work and I got mad at her and Cooldog that’s why I quit FANDOM
[02:43:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> I took my wiki (Mystery Dungeon Franchise Wiki) indie when they announced they were retiring Gamepedia URLs. I was sick of my community being passed around from farm to farm like a piece of property.
[02:43:54] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to lovesnextmissessandra> they was my personal helper, however knowing what FANDOM do to their community make me feels sick
[02:45:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Kim is a Staff and Cooldog is not
[02:45:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Ik actually
[02:45:55] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I mostly have to requests things like shared images or custom Project namespace name
[02:45:57] <WikiTideRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> So I just quit because of them
[03:21:57] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [1/2] h e l p
[03:21:58] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [2/2] ` Invalid or unsupported value for property background-image at line 17 character 23.` at https://lophocmatngu.wiki/wiki/B%E1%BA%A3n_m%E1%BA%ABu:Trang_ch%C3%ADnh/Ch%C3%A0o_m%E1%BB%ABng/styles.css
[03:23:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> How is the background image just suddenly stopped working
[03:46:51] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Wait, can I know what domain are allowed in the src policy?
[04:01:04] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Hello 👋 What's the appropriate way of asking if Wikitide is open to hosting our large (soon-to-be forked) wiki?
[04:01:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> how large exactly?
[04:02:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94, replying to ap.png> Almost 30k pages
[04:06:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Wow.
[04:07:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> I'm hesitant to use the wiki request page because it's not requesting a new wiki, it's more asking if they're open to hosting such a large wiki. I don't have the authority to single-handedly ask for a new wiki to be opened with the new content
[04:07:35] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> we host larger wikis so it should be fine
[04:08:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94, replying to agentisai> Okay thank you. Are custom extensions a barrier to accepting a wiki?
[04:09:04] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> We use two custom extensions that are integral to the wiki. We also use some other extensions that are used on WMF wikis as well, but I'm not as concerned about those
[04:09:36] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> As long as they pass a security check, they should be fine
[04:09:57] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Okay got it. Thank you!
[04:10:09] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> No problem, let us know if you need anything
[04:11:04] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> oh and have some times?
[04:12:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to agentisai> I just noticed that we are using a whitelist, so are there any reason that this might happen?
[04:12:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to songngu.xyz> I actually don't know if we are
[04:12:32] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I believe that I used the correct domain for the image
[04:12:39] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> but in any case, your static domain is wrong
[04:12:45] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> it's static.wikitide.net
[04:13:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I don't think so
[04:13:15] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> another place to update it at
[04:14:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tjari_> the lock icon in closed wikis appears to be missing (the other image is what it was supposed to look like)
[04:14:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to songngu.xyz> <https://github.com/WikiTideOrg/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php#L3692>
[04:14:56] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> wikitide.net
[04:15:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to tjari_> Thanks for the heads up. We intend to overhaul that notice soon
[04:17:57] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to agentisai> n i c e
[09:14:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> in knowledges about the SVG images not showing?
[09:19:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to sunghersong> the miracle is that fandom actually conceded and did it
[09:19:59] <WikiTideRelay>	 <raidarr> must not have made them enough ad revenue >.>
[09:20:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> 6 times.*
[09:20:05] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> 😉
[09:20:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <raidarr> now that sounds like the fandom experience
[09:20:34] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> I'm planning on #7. Once I get my Two Worlds Wiki back up.
[09:26:08] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong, replying to raidarr> Fandom Shiren the Wanderer and PMD: Explorers Wiki, none at all.
[09:26:25] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Gamepedia Mystery Dungeon Wiki; I'm still not entirely sure what I said that convinced them.
[09:27:05] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Some random Pokémon Mystery Dungeon wiki; content stolen from the Pokémon Wiki Bulbapedia.
[09:27:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> PMD: Rescue Team Wiki; content stolen from the Pokémon Wiki Bulbapedia. They really didn't want to delete that one, it took multiple tries.
[09:27:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> #6; content stolen from the Pokémon Wiki Bulbapedia.
[09:28:39] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> [1/2] There's another abandoned Pokémon wiki that uses content stolen from the Pokémon Wiki Bulbapedia that I want to shut down.
[09:28:39] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> [2/2] A book series wiki, that hosts copyrighted content, the Two Worlds Wiki, and I want to take a shot at Halo Alpha.
[09:29:54] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> They've denied several requests to close the Two Worlds Wiki, but I believe I've found its weak point and I'm ready to try it.\
[09:31:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> Just get some edgy teenagers advocating for genocide in the comments, it worked for us, they didn't even give a closing warning
[09:32:07] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> 🤣
[09:33:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> [1/2] Their whole "Fandom x Gamepedia unification project worked in my favor. I had the Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer Wiki upgraded to a Mystery Dungeon Wiki. They deleted 2, closed the third. 
[09:33:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> [2/2] We went indie, and I went back for the 1 they closed, and the wiki we left behind.
[09:34:08] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> Love it when wikis need family trees
[09:34:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> Tbf ours could use one as well
[09:35:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Due to the wiki going from Wetpaint to Wikifoundry to Gamepedia to Filthdom. Getting upgraded from Shiren the Wanderer to the entire Mystery Dungeon series of (games), and then a franchise wiki. It created a lot of confusion in the process.
[09:35:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> People weren't sure which wikis to use. So I made a diagram.
[09:35:38] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Some people kept using the old Filthdom wiki, so I shut it down. 🤣
[09:37:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> Oh how I know the feeling
[09:37:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> We migrated our wiki nearly a month ago and the old one still gets most of the activity
[09:38:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> Get used to that.
[09:38:51] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> I think it might be something related to the fact the mobile site doesn't display the popup properly
[09:39:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> I noticed most regular desktop users migrated
[09:39:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> 🤔
[09:43:26] <WikiTideRelay>	 <sunghersong> The Shiren wiki got forked to Gamepedia in 2018. Then upgraded to the Mystery Dungeon wiki in 2019, and indie in 2020. So it was a hassle to keep the casual community invested in this wiki that was seemingly going through an identity crisis.
[20:53:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <nolongerontheball_88419> not sure what this means, but it can't be a good thing 🤔
[20:53:43] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I know I am fixing
[20:54:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <nolongerontheball_88419> @cosmicalpha thank you!
[20:55:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Should be fixed
[20:55:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Sorry about that
[20:57:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <nolongerontheball_88419> https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-13282845705582740797
[20:58:25] <WikiTideRelay>	 <nolongerontheball_88419> Does anyone know what the limit to how much a wiki can hold?  I mean, there's document and images that could potentially take up a lot of space...
[20:59:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> We have a lot of storage, there is no real limit
[21:02:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> I'd imagine max page length is similar to Wikipedia's at 2mb and then it starts to break, but I could be incorrect
[21:16:04] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> That's the wikitext length
[21:16:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> The question seems to be about files
[21:20:58] <WikiTideRelay>	 <jeb_cc> I know there's at least a limit to how much the VisualEditor can process on a single page before it starts breaking things.. lol
[21:23:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Neovim can handle quite a bit of text if you need to edit a page larger than 2mb
[21:24:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to theghostofinky> well max file size is 250mb, so I assumed that end was already answered.
[21:25:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> I don't think individual file size was the question here either, more the sheer volume of files
[21:25:53] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Commons has millions, so I don't think the software would have a limit unless it has been set in config
[21:26:02] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> Precisely
[21:30:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Does anyone have something that explains what problems Miraheze has/had, and what led to the creation of WikiTide?
[21:33:30] <WikiTideRelay>	 <theghostofinky> The issue I saw being thrown aroind the most was the lack of people with knowledge relating to server reliability and other backend specific tasks.
[21:47:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to tomodachi94> [1/2] There were various issues at Miraheze such as bad decisions perceived from the Board/upper management, and a general unsustainability that came from the whole model of "let everyone and their mothers get a wiki even if the wiki is likely to be a nuisance or go entirely unused and use up our resources" which we didn't really like. The straw that broke the ca
[21:47:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to tomodachi94> [2/2] mel's back was a decision from Miraheze Trust and Safety to T&S ban a Steward while protecting the real abuser who used T&S to get their revenge
[21:47:42] <WikiTideRelay>	 <tomodachi94> Oh wow