[03:48:12] Should I open a request to have the WikiTide Two Worlds Wiki deleted? [03:48:14] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/817299964099166228/1179264945574137966/image.png?ex=65792710&is=6566b210&hm=2f8007eacf32bb0f48754dbafe7b9b915e8a14941206f25e4ef25712b69157b3&=&format=webp&width=1211&height=656 [03:48:39] I'm currently uploading all of the files from my backup, and I've exported and imported all of the page histories. 💜 [03:49:38] I'm confused, why would you need it deleted? [03:49:56] I only needed it hosted on WikiTide temporarily. [03:50:09] I took a manual backup in June or July, can't remember which. [03:50:30] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808531715822714940/1177494968366022656/image.png?ex=6572b6a5&is=656041a5&hm=a546d99b281f83af5d073f1fabc11b674b353059aec31b5ea57bc0b1d3f732b1&=&format=webp&width=543&height=224 [03:50:58] I kept getting this annoying error while trying to restore it, so I asked for temporary hosting via. WikITide to I could export the page histories. [03:51:14] If it was perfect by now, you might consider to stay here, as we will all be here to help you if things ever gone wrong [03:51:58] Well, I thought the same of Miraheze and look how that worked out. 😖 [03:52:25] I actually have a wiki on Miraheze right now. [03:53:13] My primary project was started on wetpaint, sold to Wikifoundry, forked to Gamepedia, and sold to Filthdom. [03:53:27] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594645687128293390/1179258777728462898/image.png?ex=65792152&is=6566ac52&hm=6e7a7aaddf9640888390e5efebac28ee126e2e08fc6d4ecb93b5dd1a1154b30a&=&format=webp&width=1240&height=656 [03:53:31] Ah, well, I would say that we are in a very different situation in both finances and volunteers, but if you'd prefer to move elsewhere, a request can be filed at https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Steward_requests#Wiki_(un)deletion [03:53:54] So I told my communities that I was going to take them indie and ad-free and no longer hosted by farms. [03:54:39] Oh. Interesting. But after all things that happen, we all know that it came with a risk [03:54:40] [1/2] > if you'd prefer to move elsewhere, a request can be filed at [03:54:41] [2/2] I took it indie in February 2021, I think it was. [03:55:10] Well, I'm willing to make the switch, if you guys are willing to host my other wiki. [03:55:26] I love Miraheze, but they make me nervous. [03:55:51] Fair enough. I'd add that our services are fully funded with buffer with no need to run funding drives, so if self hosting ever becomes too expensive we aim to be here for the long haul. [03:56:21] I made a wiki for an indie SciFi - Horror - Comedy series I love. [03:56:32] And I think a week into setting it up, Miraheze announced they were closing down. [04:00:42] [1/2] I feel ya, we are largely comprised of ex-MH volunteers that thought there could be a better way to do this whole hosting thing. [04:00:42] [2/2] We didn't want to ever see a MH shutdown happen, wishing the best for the new guard that are still working through logistics of handover. [04:01:18] What capta? [04:01:27] I got this same issue on Miraheze when I put in a request recently. [04:01:50] oh that bug... yeah ... that is a tough captcha isn't it... [04:02:14] I can't remember the workaround of it right now... [04:02:27] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/407537962553966603/1177451696260124672/image.png?ex=65728e58&is=65601958&hm=1c36031a06b0a637ccad0e842bad49c940e59ed0483a43a8262f9aae77bdf8fe&=&format=webp&width=1051&height=656 [04:02:35] But it is an annoying little bugger. I'll do some digging into it tomorrow. [04:02:36] Got the same issue on Miraheze recently. 😫 [04:03:26] One second, I know a workaround [04:03:50] Oh there you go. I knew there was one but can't remember it... [04:05:18] Can you please confirm your WT meta username [04:05:27] Song of Destruction [04:06:57] Done, please try again [04:07:42] Added. Thank you. 💜 [04:13:10] And done, thank you as well [04:13:31] 2 things. I'd be happy to migrate my book wiki sometime, if you're willing to host it. [04:14:04] It's not super active, as I only have 1 paperback. I really hate citing audiobooks for book-lore. [04:14:49] Second thing, I feel like you guys can relate to why I broke away in the first place. 😉 [04:15:20] Filthdom took over Gamepeda and kept giving more and more worrying news about the future of our wikis. We broke away from an uncertain future to take our projects into our own hands. [04:23:53] Yeah, I kept thinking they'd correct course at some point, but really hasn't shaken out that way... [09:22:48] Hey guys! I am doing the css for one of the elements in my wiki and it displays this instead of the code form. I'm quite new to this, so what happened? [09:32:23] Content model of the page was not set as "Sanitized CSS" [09:32:48] However, there should be a workaround to help you with this [09:34:43] Oh can you tell me more about that? [09:36:26] Add `Special:ChangeContentModel/TARGETPAGE` to the end of your wiki domain [09:36:49] `TARGETPAGE` is the page that you want the content model changed [09:37:46] Then whatever is the original model, change it to "Sanitized CSS" [09:40:23] [1/2] After you done, do this to not having to deal with this again: [09:40:23] [2/2] Go to `Special:ManageWiki/namespaces`, pick the Template namespace and uncheck "Use TemplateStyles for this namespace", save it then enable it again. [09:40:59] so like this? [09:41:11] no, Sanitized CSS [09:46:22] You have not enable TemplateStyles yet [09:46:50] please enable it in ManageWiki first, don't forget the Extended one too! [10:15:30] Assuming that fandom will ever not be complete garbage is bold [16:26:06] I think i am missing a lot of technical updates & news. Is there a tech newsletter, simillar to https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Tech_News ? [17:47:36] You know, I'd like the idea of an overall wikitide project newsletter [17:47:51] I wanted similar for miraheze but that never manifested for various reasons, now is a chance [17:48:21] I've wanted that for a long time as well. It would be nice. [17:49:10] I would be willing to contribute to it as long as there is at least one other to work with it and discuss as well [18:00:04] [1/2] December 2023 - We have a new tide rolling in. [18:00:05] [2/2] January 2024 - Careful tsunami [18:29:50] MH used to have https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Site_updates (on a monthly basis) but it was abandoned due to lack of interest in sending updates. [18:44:19] Every day there's so many changes behind the scenes that if I logged them all, it'd be miles long [18:44:35] Raidarr is quite aware of all the backend changes and I'm sure he'd attest to that [19:27:33] Do you keep a server admin log as part of this work? [19:31:43] we do [19:33:12] That could be a good starting point for daily updates. Helps keep the community apprised of what work goes into running a wiki farm [19:34:06] I've been wanting to make a tech blog but haven't had time to write anything [19:34:14] lots of behind the scenes infra work going on [19:34:16] even today [19:34:35] we're figuring out private networking between three future servers [19:34:57] That's always fun [19:35:21] Does your DC you're doing business with have an interface for forming networks between servers? [19:35:41] it doesn't, unfortunately [19:35:50] otherwise it would've been set up a while ago [19:40:41] it's the kind of thing that needs to be kept up on, minimally by one user interested in the subject but preferably multiple [19:41:41] I get enough of a feed that I can support the effort and I can help in packaging it for public use, but again I'm not reliable as the only one to do it so if anyone else is particularly interested in a little update blog on meta do feel free to step in [19:42:21] in other words there needs to be a writer who can keep a schedule [19:58:35] Private networking is the bane. Just experienced that myself, but very handy. [20:00:10] Yeah, it sucks quite a lot. Local private networking is the easiest thing ever but once you get more servers involved... ouch [20:02:07] Luckily Proxmox ui is pretty neat at setting up the bridge etc easily [20:21:52] So my Bing overview says it now has 11 URLs discovered after previously saying it had 5.6k. Google also still has zero. I'm not sure whats happening. [20:26:40] I think that sitemap.xml are not working correctly some way [20:27:00] the last time I tries to see it and it was 404 [21:33:10] hi! i don't mean to bother, but is there a specific time phorge/steward tasks/requests are done? i've got the energy to work on things and i'm a little antsy, heh. thank you! 🥰 [21:41:09] Hi there, the extension you're requesting has some pretty significant performance challenges inherent to how it works that can cause problems on larger articles. I can enable this for you, but be advised it may increase the rate of page load failures once enabled. [21:41:15] If you're good with that, I can enable it shortly. [21:41:40] Yes, it seems it just doesn't work at all on big pages as saving edits times out your connection. [22:05:37] @Site Reliability Engineers getting an error when attempting to search on Meta [22:05:41] `An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later.` [22:06:07] [1/2] Also reported in this support thread: [22:06:07] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/1088870295412146347/1092733155527622656/threads/1179194354724769923 [22:19:59] most of our pages are pretty short, so that should be fine! thank you! <3 [22:29:44] Thanks, will enable momentarily [22:31:00] WikiTide is now a registered project on Libera.Chat. If you wish to have a cloak please let myself or another group contact know. The current group contacts are Reception123, Agent, and myself. [22:33:08] And done [22:43:03] thank you!! [22:43:24] it's already working as expected, so cool [22:46:23] Fantastic, glad to hear it [23:33:13] only if the cloak comes with the WT logo on it, that would look very cool on a cloak