[01:27:18] does WT meta have an admin noticeboard or just SN right now [01:28:55] We don't technically really have a meta admin role (aside from the one you have as a trial, those powers are devolved to stewards largely so all requests go through there. [01:29:39] Or, I guess rather, meta admin/bureaucrat don't serve the same function as they do on MH, to be more accurate. [01:36:10] ah okay, makes sense [01:38:44] meta admin is really a backline support role for very local/structural things [01:39:38] ie, my housekeeping / category tinkering or macfan doing template stuff/baking in bits from miraheze [01:39:56] yeah that's what i've been doing for the past 10 minutes [01:40:04] interwiki is useful as well, found 5 errors to correct [01:44:10] yeah, some of my early category work was to try and realize some ideas that fell through and which I've since largely dialed back [01:44:36] Please triple-check what you're doing with that, changes to interwiki can have global ramifications... [01:44:47] yeah these were minor fixes [01:44:50] wikitide.com to wikitide.org [01:44:51] per switch [01:45:24] oh right me + macfan only non-steward admins [01:45:26] and raidarr [01:45:46] and yes, translation is suspended on meta (in response to the slight bit of uncertainty I caught in your steward requests response) [01:46:19] yeah I was 99% sure but didn't want to sound fully sure in case I was incorrect [01:47:19] yeah, that's wise; if at all uncertain there's always agent, na and so forth who can add that 1% [01:49:06] incidentally there is a meta admin's noticeboard in existence but as NA elaborated it doesn't see much use at this time [01:49:15] TIL [01:49:33] Meta bureaucrats are Stewards so there wasn't much use.doe the noticeboard initially [01:50:59] ah right [01:51:05] hm? [01:52:30] the noticeboard just slipped in when macfan was adding stuff I believe [01:56:13] As did [[RfC]] [01:56:15]

[01:56:21] or rather, the full title [01:59:04] yep [01:59:23] he imported a lot of mira things... wish there was a bit more collab in that but, eh [02:53:19] are we going to be using it [02:58:58] hi @cosmicalpha slight note: rman41 still has the SRE role [02:59:00] should be removed [14:05:19] not often at all, but it's not so useless I'd say just delete it [15:53:33] [1/3] heyhey! so my subdomain's up, thank you! but the certificate's borked, and that's true for the other wiki that had a domain request done yesterday, too o: [15:53:34] [2/3] i'm able to view both wikis, but one of my co-owners gets this -- they can't even 'proceed anyway (unsafe)' or however this warning words that option! [15:53:34] [3/3] they can't access the wiki at all from either link now, since yesterday :( [16:03:07] yeah [16:08:09] This will require @Site Reliability Engineers to assist [16:39:25] Mine do happen, need to restart nignx (or apache or something) if I remember correctly. [21:20:06] [1/4] "7. Direct forks of WikiTide wikis are not allowed. [21:20:06] [2/4] We understand disagreements between editors may prompt the idea but forks hurt communities by splitting them and penalizing them in SEO. If there is a disagreement between editors, please try to mediate it first. If that fails, contact Stewards who will assess the situation a decide if a fork is acceptible." [21:20:07] [3/4] https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Content_Policy [21:20:07] [4/4] acceptible -> acceptable, typo [21:21:13] Don't think it's big enough to go to #support lol [21:34:34] Thanks for catching that, edited and caught one other as well. 🙂 [21:35:09] Oh what was the other typo if I may ask [21:36:00] oh "asses the situation a decide ...", I guess the a was supposed to be and? [21:36:33] extra letters in the word institute, I think, was doing a fast check. The A is another good callout though, editing that one one [21:36:46] lol whoops [21:36:49] well glad to help :) [21:37:53] Absolutely, much appreciated [23:02:36] [1/4] Hi, I used to be active on Miraheze and still have several wikis hosted there. I saw a few people from Miraheze founded this (one of whom appears to continue to work on Miraheze). As it seems to be founded on the same principles as Miraheze, I wish you all well - there aren't enough not-for-profit democraticly controlled organisations. [23:02:36] [2/4] I would like to ask whether there was anything in specific that was different between WikiTide and Miraheze (cater to different wikis, run different software) or whether it was just a split over internal disagreements that I will never and don't want to understand? [23:02:37] [3/4] All the best, [23:02:37] [4/4] El Komodos Drago [23:08:03] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/1088870295412146347/1088870295970009221/1178089526875410542 [23:08:03] [2/2] The answer given for when the question was asked last, but I think at this stage there are some fundamental differences in how the software is developed. [23:11:03] [1/2] more limited in acceptable range to curb the greatest sources of contention from miraheze, a reimagined technical structure that is more affordable and scalable than what was managed at miraheze (on top of a few technical novelties like cirrussearch), more sustainable financially because of this last bit and occasional support through a premium sister project as well, and overall ima [23:11:03] [2/2] gined more from the ground up to avoid or curb some of the issues that became permanent points of contention on the miraheze side [23:12:22] [1/2] Per se it is not more democratic in nature as it is clearly operated by a tighter group of coworkers who indeed began on miraheze, and it is more weary of introducing democratic processes in a way that became highly contentious at miraheze. It is more focused on learning from the mistakes of other services and attempting to realize the best service it can be, at least from how I unde [23:12:23] [2/2] rstand the priorities of its managing group (the board/tech people/stewards) [23:13:16] the project is based on these things but the impetuous to go on and do it indeed came from internal disagreements culminating in a violent split as briefly described in the above link [23:36:17] Thank-you, I think that is a very good explanation. Good luck and best wishes. I will be staying at Miraheze, to the extent I am anywhere.