[02:19:36] Wikitide is a breath of fresh air. Really looking forward to this! [04:30:57] Glad to have you on board here, feel free to reach out to the community if you run into any questions during setup. 🙂 [06:29:27] is there some maintenance happening right now? [06:30:15] #announcements [06:32:17] Thanks. Sorry bout that, still getting used to discord 💪 [11:11:55] Hey, it seems that the maintenance is done already- [13:11:29] Thanks for pointing me in the direction of extensions. It looks like there are some that will do a lot of what we're looking for (Lockdown, GroupWhitelist, Authorprotect like you mentioned, and a bunch of others). So pages are restricted to certain people to edit (e.g. author, or members of a group). [13:12:41] it seems like PagePermissions is a good one. means we can delegate the power to give roles too. [13:45:56] getting 502 bad gatewat and 504 gateway time out on images [13:51:36] Wikitide is still under maintenance [14:21:17] bruh [14:48:42] oh that's interesting, not sure why images are down [14:50:31] I'm still getting wiki not found on all the wikis, is maintenance still going on? [14:56:37] Yes [17:30:24] No words really, what happened? [17:31:00] See #announcements , there's an ongoing maintenance [17:31:53] I just realised that right after I sent the message. Is there an estimate of when it should be resolved? [17:32:07] You should be able to directly navigate to your wiki but clicking enter on some things will redirect you to wikitide.org [17:32:37] apart from that, wikis are on read-only for a few more hours [17:33:22] for example, https://angrybirds.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page will work, but https://angrybirds.wikitide.org would redirect you to the 404, since it's not an actual landing page but a redirect to main page [17:33:35] great observation [17:33:36] wiki not found :pensiv [17:33:41] 😔 [17:33:46] Ok, thank you! [17:33:57] im liking irc a bit more than discord [17:34:10] Nope, it redirects to the same 404 page. :/ [17:34:16] Yep, maintenance continues, until it's done expect that edits won't be possible/images may fail to load/SMW may throw an error page [17:34:27] IRC has its charm [17:34:39] especially once you find your client [17:34:56] i like irccloud, but might move to something else later™️ [17:35:36] certainly [17:36:10] IRCcloud's my client of choice, mostly under the 'I can't be bothered' banner. It's there, it's browser-based, I don't need to worry about particulars. [17:36:22] Hit button, get chat. [17:37:52] [1/9] > Semantic MediaWiki was installed and enabled but is missing an appropriate upgrade key. [17:37:52] [2/9] > Version [17:37:52] [3/9] > [17:37:53] [4/9] > Semantic MediaWiki: [17:37:53] [5/9] > 4.1.2 (smw:2020-04-18) [17:37:53] [6/9] > MediaWiki: [17:37:53] [7/9] > 1.40.1 [17:37:54] [8/9] > Code: [17:37:54] [9/9] > ERROR_SCHEMA_INVALID_KEY [17:37:59] not the error I expected personally [17:40:49] might self-host The Lounge IRC client [17:42:35] that with https://www.npmjs.com/package/thelounge-theme-neuron-fork [17:44:25] Yep, with things getting shuffled around, SMW loses the info it needs to properly initialize. It's a quick fix but requires maintenance to finish first. [17:47:31] never understood what smw did [18:11:13] very complex things [18:11:24] that's about as much as I know about semantic data lol [18:28:13] semantic mediawiki basically lets you store data about pages for easy retrieval [18:28:37] and it does it in a way that's seamless with regular wikitext instead of inline sql like whatever tf cargo has going on [18:29:29] people tell me that cargo being inline sql makes it easier, but I think that's only true if you assume every wiki editor is familiar with sql! [18:31:37] anyway, main use case for smw is stuff like page of the day, random trivia, etc, as well as basically anything you'd use dpl for but better [18:31:58] like it can literally do everything dpl can do, but without ddosing your wiki when misused [18:33:11] it's also pretty good for crunching through wikis with a lot of content, especially when combined with an extension like semantic drilldown [18:34:59] on sagan 4 we use it for infobox data storage and retrieval [18:35:22] which has a fair number of use cases [18:36:19] a lot of it could be done with lua but shrug. writing lua modules isn't fun [18:36:43] smw you just plug in a thing and it Works that's the whole point of getting an extension [18:42:00] it probably makes the most sense for something where you expect your readers to be searching with little prior knowledge [18:43:14] Great example: If you are doing a game wiki and have things that'll be re-used a lot, like resource costs or building prerequisites, you can store that all in SMW and call it across multiple pages dynamically [18:44:59] In the use case from my wiki, we have massive tables from the developer that contain data for multiple attributes for buildings or materials that may change between game versions. [18:45:03] [1/14] also instead of having to have these categories: [18:45:03] [2/14] - Plants of Continent 1 [18:45:03] [3/14] - Animals of Continent 1 [18:45:04] [4/14] - Fungi of Continent 1 [18:45:04] [5/14] - Plants of Continent 2 [18:45:04] [6/14] - Animals of Continent 2 [18:45:05] [7/14] - Fungi of Continent 2 [18:45:05] [8/14] - Plants of Continent 3 [18:45:05] [9/14] - Animals of Continent 3 [18:45:06] [10/14] - Fungi of Continent 3 [18:45:06] [11/14] you have these two properties [18:45:07] [12/14] - Continent [18:45:07] [13/14] - Taxonomic kingdom [18:45:08] [14/14] and you can search them both at once [22:22:48] by the way, is there any eta on the maintenance yet? [22:29:38] soon™️ [22:29:46] maybe 2 hours at the most? [23:24:51] The maintenance came unexpectedly. Please users have a WT status feed on BlueSky, Mastodon, or wherever? [23:27:32] There was a memo fyi in #announcements ^^ But other avenues definitely don't hurt either. [23:36:12] There was a CentralNotice deployed too [23:36:27] but a social media notification is a good idea too [23:36:46] I'm not often on Discord, I'm always on BlueSky & Mastodon. [23:37:11] Somehow I missed the cental notice.