[04:48:52] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> so, my wiki is quite messed up right now, I'm thinking of start over again, but with dumps exported out of course\
[04:50:05] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Is it actually possible?
[06:45:25] <WikiTideRelay>	 <trigjegman> what do you mean by quite messed up
[07:20:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/1088870295412146347/1092731722602381414/1184031921496408135
[07:20:29] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> [2/2] i thought it was one for like 3 months now lol
[07:21:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> We've been battling with the taxman for 6 months now to get the certification heh
[07:21:07] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Technically it is retroactively applying since July 9th, but we were only just actually approved
[07:21:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> oh
[07:21:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <ap.png> does the no tax apply to all countries?
[07:35:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to trigjegman> like, errors everywhere, mostly might be me messing with the settings
[07:36:22] <WikiTideRelay>	 <trigjegman> I would say a dump and rebuild is not going to fix that
[07:41:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <eternitymediagroup> This is huge news. Congratulations on completing the process, and I look forward to seeing where the farm goes from here. There's a bright future ahead
[07:49:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to trigjegman> I know, but I'm thinking about going to self-hosting my wiki instead
[07:50:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> With Wikibase, that's probably the best choice while you figure out what's going on
[07:51:17] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> but I only have a cPanel with 2 GB of storages lol
[07:51:34] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> so I'm not sure if I can install 1.41 for that
[07:52:03] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I know about 1.40, but I wants to try 1.41 first, for the MediaSpoiler extension
[07:57:37] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> but even that, I can't do it without a dump
[07:57:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> We can upgrade wikis to 1.41 whenever if you want to upgrade your wiki to 1.41 we can do it.
[07:58:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to cosmicalpha> oh I do
[07:58:28] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> We have a way to put different wikis on different MediaWiki versions now
[07:58:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Well 1.40 or 1.41, just to make upgrade process easier.
[07:59:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I can handle upgrading your wiki tomorrow if you want
[07:59:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> *wiki(s)
[07:59:53] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> that's nice then
[08:00:17] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> DM me the wikis you want upgraded so I don't forget
[08:00:20] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to cosmicalpha> uh and... still, we have to figure out the issues with my wiki first
[08:00:45] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> We can do that after upgrade, and I can install MediaSpoiler for 1.41 also
[08:01:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> oh, ok then-
[08:03:02] <WikiTideRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Yep, I developed our versioning system in the very beginning of launch to make it so we can more easily upgrade and maintain things. There are options in our mediawiki-repos.yaml file for a lot of things also, including extensions to install only for specific versions and whatnot.
[08:31:25] <WikiTideRelay>	 <coveisyes> This is great news
[11:36:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> [1/2] I have no wanted pages/categiries etc.
[11:36:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> [2/2] Also my wiki still has an internal error from yesterday.
[11:37:06] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to platyellow> Wanted Page and Categories are disabled as Miser Mode has been enabled if I know correctly
[11:38:09] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Miser Mode is global, I forgot to add
[11:38:34] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> And about the error, meh, you aren't alone
[15:59:05] <WikiTideRelay>	 <a10thehero, replying to a10thehero> Please help with this when you have time @Site Reliability Engineers. Google Search Console is failing to index my wiki’s pages now. 😥
[16:00:38] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to a10thehero> Sorry about now. Should work now
[16:01:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to platyellow> On what pages.do you see the error?
[16:02:34] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to agentisai> [1/2] You can see an example on:
[16:02:35] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to agentisai> [2/2] https://totaltennis.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page
[16:02:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <a10thehero, replying to agentisai> Thank you! 😊
[16:07:24] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> At any time, when you are ready, can you also upgrade `lhmnwiki` to 1.41?
[16:14:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to agentisai> Only my front page, I believe its the the Vietnam wiki which is also getting a similar error the last week
[16:56:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to platyellow> All the page on my wiki aren't accessable, either do your
[17:00:09] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [1/16] ```Error: Call to undefined method FallbackContent::getText()
[17:00:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [2/16] Backtrace:
[17:00:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [3/16] from /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/content/TextContentHandler.php(245)
[17:00:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [4/16] #0 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/content/ContentHandler.php(1747): TextContentHandler->fillParserOutput(FallbackContent, MediaWiki\Content\Renderer\ContentParseParams, ParserOutput)
[17:00:10] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [5/16] #1 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/content/Renderer/ContentRenderer.php(47): ContentHandler->getParserOutput(FallbackContent, MediaWiki\Content\Renderer\ContentParseParams)
[17:00:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [6/16] #2 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php(259): MediaWiki\Content\Renderer\ContentRenderer->getParserOutput(FallbackContent, MediaWiki\Title\Title, integer, ParserOptions, boolean)
[17:00:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [7/16] #3 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php(232): MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision->getSlotParserOutputUncached(FallbackContent, boolean)
[17:00:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [8/16] #4 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/Revision/RevisionRenderer.php(242): MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision->getSlotParserOutput(string, array)
[17:00:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [9/16] #5 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/Revision/RevisionRenderer.php(164): MediaWiki\Revision\RevisionRenderer->combineSlotOutput(MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision, array)
[17:00:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [10/16] #6 [internal function]: MediaWiki\Revision\RevisionRenderer->MediaWiki\Revision\{closure}(MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision, array)
[17:00:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [11/16] #7 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php(199): call_user_func(Closure, MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision, array)
[17:00:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [12/16] #8 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/poolcounter/PoolWorkArticleView.php(87): MediaWiki\Revision\RenderedRevision->getRevisionParserOutput()
[17:00:13] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [13/16] #9 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/poolcounter/PoolWorkArticleViewCurrent.php(92): PoolWorkArticleView->renderRevision()
[17:00:14] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai> [14/16] #10 /srv/mediawiki/1.40/includes/poolcounter/PoolCounterWork.php(166): PoolWorkArticleViewCurrent->doWork()
[17:07:44] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> is there any way of checking the status of a wiki after you close the tab? i forgot to bookmark it so I can't check it [it seems?]
[17:08:39] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to infernostars> If you go to https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Special:CentraAuth and search your user, you can see all wikis you've ever visited
[17:10:44] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> Sorry, should have specified - I mean a wiki request status
[17:13:16] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> i.e. can i get back to the page it describes here
[17:17:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to infernostars> All requests have been processed so you should be able to view if it was approved or not at [[Special:Notifications]]
[17:17:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Special:Notifications>
[17:17:42] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> weeeeeeeirrrd
[17:19:01] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> ig ill resubmitt?
[17:20:02] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Oh, if you're looking for wiki requests there's another method
[17:20:33] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue, then put in your user name and change status to all, then search
[17:24:38] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> hm
[17:25:36] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> is there any way to dispute a denial or no?
[17:26:40] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Depends on cause, but you can edit the request description to reopen for consideration and leave a comment with rationale.
[17:26:51] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> alr
[17:27:09] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Usually a reviewer will explain in comments why a request was declined
[17:29:29] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> yeah i saw it
[17:29:35] <WikiTideRelay>	 <infernostars> resub'd
[17:39:41] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to agentisai> so I get a new internal error on totaltennis.wikitide.org
[19:10:38] <WikiTideRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to platyellow> It's not new, it just the fact that they enable detail traces within our view
[19:11:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to songngu.xyz> its new on my wiki, as it hasn't shown that before
[21:49:57] <v0>	 typically backtraces aren’t visible on production wikis, you would only get a more concise description of the error
[22:52:20] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> [1/4] Is there any good, efficient way of referencing a table and performing a data pull similar to a vlookup? For example, let's say I have a table of 200 rows, and 4 columns. Each row is for an individual item, and its particular features...
[22:52:20] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> [2/4] Item      | Value | Craftable | Use
[22:52:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> [3/4] ThingA |       24 |          No     | Quest  
[22:52:21] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> [4/4] ThingB |         0 |           Yes   | Crafting
[22:57:00] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to amakudaru> So are you looking for a Flagicon/Country data type template to pull from?
[22:58:11] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> [1/2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WTA_1000_tournaments
[22:58:12] <WikiTideRelay>	 <platyellow> [2/2] Or something like this which will just pull sections
[23:00:51] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> Possibly. Specific use case would be a list of rpg items, the specific stats of each item, the values to purchase and sell, crafting recipe, what crafting recipes it's used in. Preferably a central table, like e.g. wiki/Tables:AllItems
[23:02:29] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> I don't want to call the full table if I don't have to, but I also don't want a module for each specific item, as that seems like it defeats the purpose
[23:05:46] <WikiTideRelay>	 <amakudaru> Eventual goal is to have infoboxes on the specific item's page, that display useful information to the end user, while having a centralized repository for updating information, stats, etc, and having that info reflected on any pages that reference a given item
[23:50:48] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> So the two paths to solve for that are going to be complex lua modules + templates or Semantic MediaWiki, neither of which is clean or fast to do.
[23:51:23] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> Might also be doable with cargo or wikibase, but all of this pushes at the edge of my knowledge.
[23:52:50] <WikiTideRelay>	 <notaracham> I do plan on a deep-dive into SMW one of these days, but all wiki-related projects are on hold for me until June once I'm out from under this masters program. 🙂