[00:06:47] Ahh, gotcha. Wikis in general are outside of my expertise, but I'm the type to jump in with both feet, break stuff, spend hours stuck fixing things, eventually having some hobbled-together mass that somehow happens to work, held together with nothing but some bubblegum and duct tape... but I digress. probably best for me to not bog the server down with ifelse loops 🙂 [00:07:29] Do you plan to still help out at miraheze @notaracham [00:08:16] I have retired from all duties aside from Discord moderator over there, I don't realistically have bandwidth/interest for more than that. [00:13:21] [1/4] Absolutely, as an example from a fairly complex wiki's use case: [00:13:21] [2/4] Actual article built 100% off template: https://dragontamer.miraheze.org/wiki/Dragon:Wyrm [00:13:21] [3/4] Template Behind Article: https://dragontamer.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Dragon%20Page&action=edit [00:13:21] [4/4] Module behind template: https://dragontamer.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Module:DragonFunctions&action=edit [00:13:56] It's the sort of batcrackers module design I'd love to wrap my head around when I had a free moment, as they've done a tremendous job of parameterizing pretty much everything. [00:18:49] That's... wow. That's a masterpiece. [00:19:19] Yeah, they've been at their wiki's design for a minute [00:20:10] Factorio's wiki is even wilder, but I would expect nothing less from Factorio afficionados. [00:21:21] yep, efficiency is factorio haha [00:21:54] runescape's wiki is pretty template-heavy as well. where i'm pulling a lot of inspiration from ^^ [00:28:40] I imagine I could cobble something together in Google Sheets, using an ungodly array of CONCAT to have a "visual editor" with output to a field that can be copy-pasted to a template. [00:31:49] Another great source - that community's also been at it for a LONG time. [00:54:43] Considering the entire concept of factorio is to build complex structures, it really doesn't surprise me yeah. XD [03:09:31] Awesome: You guys also fixed the issue with analytics.wikitide.net/matomo.js (timing out) -- Thank you!!! [05:01:59] I'm learning with WB- [10:31:16] huh!? [10:48:44] The images seem to be gone again [11:03:32] lmaoberg [12:24:33] Phorge is now working. Should I submit my bulk image request there? Or is my request in #support sufficient? [12:40:20] If Phorge is not responding then, go ahead in #support [15:29:08] phorge does seem to be responding, I've left a poke elsewhere to learn if posting in support is generally desirable when it's up [16:57:08] this is just out of curiosity but on the Metrolook skin, what is this thing supposed to do lol [16:57:17] it kinda just doesn't work [17:07:41] I used to just wipe that tab out with css tbh but I think the point to it is some interface page to help fill it in [17:09:32] [1/2] I'm fairly sure this is what you're looking for [17:09:33] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Metrolook#Customization [17:09:40] Interface tiles that you need to fill in, basically [17:38:30] oh so it's not actually a bug then [17:38:58] I'll have to look into it, thanks [17:48:36] np [19:19:22] I’ve found in the content policy that general purpose wikis are not allowed, that each wiki needs to have some kind of specific person. Have you considered having exactly one general purpose wiki so that anyone who would want to participate in one would focus their efforts? Or is it not worth the effort? [19:25:20] [1/4] not really, one of a few outcomes is overwhelmingly probable, but probably a combination of these over time: [19:25:20] [2/4] - It will become a dumping ground for copy pasted wikipedia articles since the topic would be roughly identical to what wikimedia is on about, [19:25:20] [3/4] - It will be 'wikipedia with lower standards' meaning basically the problems of wikipedia reliability but consistently worse, [19:25:21] [4/4] - It will be an attracting ground for unfocused, scattered, poor quality or at least and at very best 'diverse' content which links together in a difficult way, but more than likely, result in an influx of self promotion and subtle (as well as unsubtle) spam or self advertising. [19:26:20] The catalyst of unfocused purpose wikis being a problem has been all of these wikis on mirhaeze becoming one or multiple of these at a time, and ultimately not worth the effort besides competing with wikimedia very poorly and with each other [19:41:28] Just as an aside, I did post that while phorge was throwing Auth errors [19:42:31] fair enough, if you do go ahead and post it on phorge do leave an update in the thread otherwise I've already pointed some folks to have a look at the thread when they have time [19:43:07] Alright, thank you