[00:42:47] What will happen to this server when/if WikiTide merges back into Miraheze? [00:45:39] TBD [00:49:00] Oh my bad, thought it was yours as you posted that and shortly before there was the commit; my bad! [01:26:49] I've read a statement by a WikiTide board member that WikiTide wikis will remain at the same domain for the foreseeable future if the MH/WT merger happens (which it likely will), but will a domain change for WT wikis be considered for the far future? [01:33:14] That's another "TBD" item. Long term decisions on branding will be part of the new combined board's purview, with community input. [04:09:19] queue it up as the next RfC [05:32:19] Loads to do before we get to thinking about that. 🙂 [12:22:38] foremost that I push for is a massive chomp at community and technical backlogs [12:22:46] any progressive ambitions can follow from there [16:11:25] dies anyone else agree centrelauth is a pain in the ass [16:32:36] Why do you keep asking that in every server? [20:32:47] There seems to be a quirk in my infobox code... it seems to add a bunch of leading blank lines between the infobox title and image and the actual content of the infobox. Is it rendering the line returns within my html? [20:37:05] maybe... can you link an example page? I'm happy to take a look [21:08:30] https://idleiktah.wikitide.org/wiki/Red_fir_logs here's a page using the template [21:08:48] here's the template page itself https://idleiktah.wikitide.org/wiki/Template:Itempage [21:58:13] Yeah, I can't say for sure, but it'd be worth tring a version where you don't have as many line breaks between if evaluators inside a table, if I had to guess that's getting parsed strangely. [21:58:35] [1/2] Something like the following instead of the current form. [21:58:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088870295970009221/1190051193569951888/image.png?ex=65a0648a&is=658def8a&hm=14cecef81702341edcc5cf864d8f483a01bf5d55ca9037053db0249fc03e9886& [22:34:53] http://wiki.cardhuntria.com/index.php?title=Template:Itempage&action=edit - you might find something layered like that a bit more beneficial [22:53:37] Thanks for the advice! I'll try it and see if it helps [22:57:41] Eventually I plan on building out the page from the variables with different sections, having just a basic information infobox. I'm basically just trying to ensure that all of the variables are being observed before I go too crazy with page design. Also, I'm pretty ignorant to what's happening on that page. [22:59:25] The one I linked, still has If functions that need reorganizing but its contained more within the basic parameters of a wikitable, it just needs tweaking for your needs, but it is good to start simple and work your way up to it. [22:59:42] It would also be fairly straightforward to convert to a portable infobox template, which has a lower overhead for maintenance [23:12:55] [1/3] i found a solution to the issue i was having... the line returns in themselves aren't an issue.... provided they fall within the "if" statement. the solution? [23:12:55] [2/3] ```{{#if: [23:12:56] [3/3] {{{PRIMARY_SOURCE|}}}|Primary Source/th{{{PRIMARY_SOURCE}}}/td/tr}}{{#if:``` [23:17:21] [1/3] trying to figure out what this is doing, to see if I'm following it correctly: [23:17:22] [2/3] ```|rowspan={{#expr:4+{{#if:{{{talent|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{value|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard1_name|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard2_name|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard3_name|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard4_name|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard5_name|}}}|1|0}}+{{#if:{{{itemcard6_name|}}}|1|0}}}}|{{ItemImage|{{{image1}}} }}``` [23:17:22] [3/3] this sets the rowspan to the value of 4 + (the number of defined variables found)? [23:17:47] @amakudaru I did pop something on your wiki for you to look at regarding using infoboxes, but its more of what I was meaning just as my infoboxes are just very simple. [23:28:22] thanks! I'm very ignorant to the wiki syntax (i don't know what {{!}} does, or what the -/noinclude does). Also, i'm not even entirely sure what benefits one provides over the other, apart from one prioritizing html over wiki script [23:32:21] honestly, i'm stumbling around blind trying to figure out what works and how it works. i mean, just take a look at this monstrosity. i had a deluded idea that i could just whip up something to parse from this [23:34:18] hang on, trying to find the page. too spammy to copy-paste here [23:34:28] [1/2] I've only seen the benefit of using -/noinclude because it can help you to see how the template looks without any obvious line breaks. But I'm sure theres a better reason to point out. [23:34:29] [2/2] {{!}} Stops the if function from breaking up because of using | [23:35:03] Probably better reasons or better explained reasons from other users, but thats the basics of what I grasp [23:35:09] https://idleiktah.wikitide.org/wiki/Module:ItemList [23:36:30] i had a deluded idea i could just "whip up" a parsing script to basically auto-generate the entirety of the page from one template call. just modify itemlist, and it changes pages across the wiki [23:37:33] with no LUA knowledge, mind you. I know it's possible, but i don't know what anything actually does. I'm like a caveman trying to pilot a spacecraft [23:39:24] Its ok to be a caveman and start with basics and improve on it. No page on your wiki will have just 1 edit. [23:41:20] I do remember years ago when I started and trying to import templates that I didn't know how they worked, at least at the stage I am I can look back to sometimes older revisions and pick out the parts I might need, but its ok to work your way up to that. [23:43:29] My saving grace is I have a decent grasp of google sheets, making syntax changes easier. It won't learn for me, but it can do the repetitive stuff for me haha [23:55:45] @platyellow I definitely appreciate the help and the words of encouragement!